Happy people don't need any kind of drug? Pretty much everyone experimented with an evasion from reality in "The Game".
Recreational drugs in Trek
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As I understood it, in "The Game", it was all done against their will and was instantaneous. Even Wesley got caught in the end, even though he was completely against it and exposed to it only a few seconds.
It wasn't done against Riker's will. Ditto with those who said, "Sure, why not?" after Riker or someone else said, "Here! Try this, it's the coolest thing."
A recreational drug by any other name would still get you as addicted ....
A recreational drug by any other name would still get you as addicted ....
Except no one knew it worked as a drug.
They all thought it was a benign video game.
They all thought it was a benign video game.
My take, because Riker referred to the white there as a narcotic, was that the Sona were selling the white to non-JemHadars.
As a illegal drug, maybe all through the Federation.
I never got the argument there shouldn't be drug dealers or users in Starfleet. After all, we've seen plenty of renegade captains and admirals, even in TOS. Why wouldn't there be crooked ensigns and lieutenants?
Thing is, DS9 did make it clear the Son'a were supplying the Dominion. I doubt the Dominion would take too kindly to their supplier giving the drug they tightly control to just anyone.
Was just watching "Mudd's Women"...don't think anyone's mentioned the Venus Drug.
It's been ages since I saw it, but want the twist at the end that it was a placebo and it was the women's confidence while taking it that made them seem more attractive?
Would the Sona care about that? The JemHadar have boundless energy and don't need to sleep, there would probably be a market for that.
Narcotic usually means a drug that is being used non-medically and often illegally, If the Sona were only supplying the white to the JemHadar, I don't think Riker would have used the term "narcotic."
I tend to think that a drug that keeps your enemy in war fighting harder and longer would be illegal. But then, having the Son'a manufacture it makes little sense. (Not much at all about the Son'a makes much sense.
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No, they replaced it with a placebo at the end and proved that Eve could get by with her natural confidence and attractiveness alone...but they didn't clearly get into what the actual drug had been doing. Clearly it was doing something, if it could make McCoy's scanners act so strangely.
"Narcotic" is a technical term, unrelated to legality or who uses the drug or why. If a doctor prescribes this particular class of drug because it is necessary for pain, it is called a narcotic.
As for "happy people" not needing "drugs" (illicit drugs I guess... aspirin is a drug), I prefer not to assume I know why other people do or do not do things. We all read what we want to into Trek. I hope people will be grounded and well adjusted enough in general to indulge in a wide range of things if they want, without its getting out of control. There will certainly be more freedoms, fewer restrictions.
They would care when the Dominion turn their resources to attacking and eradicating he Son'a. Keep in mind the purpose of Ketracel White is to insure Jem'Hadar loyalty, and to further insure that it is strictly regulated by the Vorta so that they only they and the Founders are the only ones the Jem'Hadar can get it from. If there's suddenly a black market where any random Ferengi, Bolian or Tellarite can obtain Ketracel White, not only does it mean there are sources other than Vorta and the Founders to obtain the White, you run the risk of others obtaining samples and learning how to produce some themselves, which would further loosen the leash the Dominion has on the Jem'Hadar.
So yeah, the Dominion would notice if the Son'a began selling Ketracel White to anyone else, but if the Son'a were smart they'd know not to rock that boat.
I assumed it was a matter of convenience. The Dominion was cut off from the Gamma Quadrant and Sisko destroyed their Ketracel White production facility in the Alpha Quadrant. Somehow they discovered the Son'a were capable of manufacturing White and their choices were eradicate the Son'a to prevent others from learning or get the Son'a supplying the Dominion before their White runs out and the Jem'Hadar began suffering withdrawal and all the fun stuff associated with it.I tend to think that a drug that keeps your enemy in war fighting harder and longer would be illegal. But then, having the Son'a manufacture it makes little sense. (Not much at all about the Son'a makes much sense.
I stand corrected
Exactly, it took them all by surprise, including Riker. And Wesley, even thought he was very much against it, couldn't help being "hypnotized" in the end like every one else.
I think it'd be dangerous to create virtual molecules that would get inside your body and disappear as soon as you leave the holodeck, causing sudden local chemical imbalance that could be fatal in some cases. Nog spent a few weeks in the holosuite, had the food he ate then be virtual. countless of his cells, including brain cells would have died of inanition the moment he had left the holosuite, causing death or serious brain damage.
In the 21st century humans used drugs to control the military.
Let's make the distinction between using drugs and abusing them. Having a beer or two is not the same as having ten and showing up to work with a hangover.
There's probably drug use but at least on Earth very little drug abuse. They seem to have very strong educational programs and the ability to medically prevent addiction before it ruins any lives. In a famously bad speech of Tasha's Wesley seems baffled that anybody would trade health and self control for a quick burst of pleasure.
In the 24th century, if they find a person with a heroin addiction they can probably give him a few hypos and get their brains instantly functioning normally again.
Let's make the distinction between using drugs and abusing them. Having a beer or two is not the same as having ten and showing up to work with a hangover.
There's probably drug use but at least on Earth very little drug abuse. They seem to have very strong educational programs and the ability to medically prevent addiction before it ruins any lives. In a famously bad speech of Tasha's Wesley seems baffled that anybody would trade health and self control for a quick burst of pleasure.
In the 24th century, if they find a person with a heroin addiction they can probably give him a few hypos and get their brains instantly functioning normally again.
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