The Seska/Kazon arc

[Sophie74656]

She could have played the Borg Queen instead of Alice Krige. It would have made zero sense, but it would have been awesome.

Another arc that I liked that isn't mentioned on the Memory Alpha list is the Paris/Torres relationship. Mostly it was season seven when they got married and B'Elanna fell pregnant, and there were lots of excellent moments between the two.

Their arc went pretty much through all seven seasons. They started building a friendship in season 1 with Faces, then through season 2 and three you could see them getting closer and becoming more flirty until season 4 when B'Elanna declared her love. I love how they built their relationship.

 

[LJones41]

I think they could have found a way to bring Seska back for the finale. It would have been interesting to have her back one last time.

She did return in Season 7 when Voyager was fractured into several timelines. One of my favorite episodes.

 

[Sophie74656]

I think they could have found a way to bring Seska back for the finale. It would have been interesting to have her back one last time.

She was in season 7 in Shattered

 

[locutus101]

She did return in Season 7 when Voyager was fractured into several timelines. One of my favorite episodes.

I know that, that's why I said the finale and not season 7.

 

[Seven of Five]

Their arc went pretty much through all seven seasons. They started building a friendship in season 1 with Faces, then through season 2 and three you could see them getting closer and becoming more flirty until season 4 when B'Elanna declared her love. I love how they built their relationship.

Yes it did, on my rewatch I noticed the first hints at something way back in Phage in season one. What I think I didn't make clear is that their relationship really took off in season seven, and was one of favourite parts of it.

 

[Sophie74656]

Yes it did, on my rewatch I noticed the first hints at something way back in Phage in season one. What I think I didn't make clear is that their relationship really took off in season seven, and was one of favourite parts of it.

They did get more focus in season 7, and yes I love that too

 

[locutus101]

They did get more focus in season 7, and yes I love that too

I didn't care for that Klingon episode though.

 

[Sophie74656]

I didn't care for that Klingon episode though.

It's a B'Elanna episode so I like it

 

[locutus101]

It's a B'Elanna episode so I like it

It wasn't the best one though.

 

[Sophie74656]

It wasn't the best one though.

No it wasn't the best but still one that I liked

 

[Thomas Eugene]

I think they could have found a way to bring Seska back for the finale. It would have been interesting to have her back one last time.

As far as I remember, that certain "crate" of yours does contain my fav VOY book called DISTANT SHORES. It is a collection of short stories happening during the tv show. I suggest that you should read Da Capo Al Fine from that anthology (a two-parter), which takes place during the last moments of Admiral Janeway in the Queen's cube (or did she live in a sphere?) and it does include Seska (and a lot of other things from all the seven seasons).

 

[locutus101]

As far as I remember, that certain "crate" of yours does contain my fav VOY book called DISTANT SHORES. It is a collection of short stories happening during the tv show. I suggest that you should read Da Capo Al Fine from that anthology (a two-parter), which takes place during the last moments of Admiral Janeway in the Queen's cube (or did she live in a sphere?) and it does include Seska (and a lot of other things from all the seven seasons).

Thank you for the tip. I still need to make the time to read these books. I guess it's better to be too busy to do all the things you want to than the opposite, IE not having enough to do to fill your days.

 

[Thomas Eugene]

Thank you for the tip. I still need to make the time to read these books. I guess it's better to be too busy to do all the things you want to than the opposite, IE not having enough to do to fill your days.

While I agree with this, don't forget that it's just a twenty or so page long short story. Give it chance before you go to bed ... unless you are very sleepy, of course ... xD

 

[Farscape One]

The original plan was for Chakotay to keep his baby that he fathered with Seska, and take that baby back to the Alpha Quadrant. Not sure if Seska was going to chase him to get her kid back, or she was going to rejoin the crew, or maybe no one is sure, because Jeri Taylor put a Nix on the idea of two babies on Voyager.



Basics was split between season two and three.

Jeri Taylor was not a producer in season two, but was a producer in season 3.

The producers/writers of Basics Part One thought that Chakotay was the father, and constructed the episode accordingly.

Once Jeri was in charge in Season 3, she suggested to her employee, the author of Basics Part 2 to have it that Chakotay failed a paternity test with Sesk's baby, because she thought that was best for Star Trek.

Jeri Taylor was an Executive Producer for the first 4 seasons. Michael Piller stepped down after season two, leaving Rick Berman and Jeri Taylor in charge for seasons 3 and 4. Brannon Braga got promoted to Co-Executive Producer for season 4, and when Taylor stepped down for season 5, it was Berman and Braga for seasons 5 and 6, then Braga stepped down to be a Condultant for season 7 with Kenneth Biller replacing him.

"BASICS, PART II" was produced in season 2 and wasn't aired until season 3 for the same reason season 1 had those 4 leftovers held until season 2... UPN wanted to start their fall season ahead of the other networks. This why season 3 only had 22 PRODUCED episodes because the network knew that changes were going to be made for season 4. This is why VOYAGER ended up with 4 less episodes in total than DS9, otherwise they would have had the exact number of episodes.

My point is that all decisions regarding any characters for "BASICS" were made and produced before the end of season 2, and long before the writing process for season 3 even started.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Jeri Taylor was an Executive Producer for the first 4 seasons. Michael Piller stepped down after season two, leaving Rick Berman and Jeri Taylor in charge for seasons 3 and 4. Brannon Braga got promoted to Co-Executive Producer for season 4, and when Taylor stepped down for season 5, it was Berman and Braga for seasons 5 and 6, then Braga stepped down to be a Condultant for season 7 with Kenneth Biller replacing him.

"BASICS, PART II" was produced in season 2 and wasn't aired until season 3 for the same reason season 1 had those 4 leftovers held until season 2... UPN wanted to start their fall season ahead of the other networks. This why season 3 only had 22 PRODUCED episodes because the network knew that changes were going to be made for season 4. This is why VOYAGER ended up with 4 less episodes in total than DS9, otherwise they would have had the exact number of episodes.

My point is that all decisions regarding any characters for "BASICS" were made and produced before the end of season 2, and long before the writing process for season 3 even started.

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Basics,_Part_II_(episode)

Jeri says she had a six week holiday between basics one and two.

Yes Jeri was an EP in season 2, sorry, but Piller leaving, gave her more power to steamroll over his vision and intentions as he left. Piller actually wanted to kill Chakotays son. Making the boy Culluhs was a trick, invented by Jeri, so she didn't have to deal with 2 screaming brats in season 3.

The decision to settle on the alternative of killing Seska (while also having Culluh remove the unwanted baby, his own son) was made only two or three days before the episode entered production. (Cinefantastique, Vol. 29, No. 6/7, p. 83; Star Trek Monthly issue 34, p. 38)

I don't know how the baby died in the original script, but I can imagine Suder using the baby like a club to beat Seska to death, and then (eventually) Chakotay flips out, and makes Lon eat a bath-mat very quickly.

It's late.

Where the #### are my chill pills?

 

[Farscape One]

Jeri had that break likely because there were 3 episodes being filmed between "BASICS, PART I" and "BASICS, PART II". ("SACRED GROUND", "FALSE PROFITS", and "FLASHBACK" were the episodes.)

"BASICS, PART II", like "THE 37's", was the last episode produced the previous season but used as the season premiere. She could very easily have those sc3nes concerning the baby rewritten and reshot... that type of thing happened many times throughout all the shows.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Not the point.

Chakotay was the father, until Jeri said that he wasn't.

They filmed part one thinking that Chakotay was the father.

They were wrong.

 

[Farscape One]

I only illustrated all those facts to explain how that decision was likely made.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The article from memory alpha explained (with quotes from the participants) that the network thought that Killing the baby in part II was too icky, so the network asked for a rewrite.

 

[Voth commando1]

It would have been interesting had she not been a villain yet still been a scheming cardassian.