What? That Sisko and Picard's meeting happened before the Battle of Sector 001? I don't think anyone was disputing that fact.
Did Sisko ever forgive Picard?
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Not my point though.
Ok, let me spell it out for you.
My point is that without Picard being Locutus and having an internal knowledge of the borg, they would never have known how to stop the borg and that means that Locutus has acutally saved the Earth including Sisko's ungrateful ass. But Sisko apparently could only remember that he saw him in wolf 359!
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Which is why I was asking.......
Just read post number 142, again. I added a few things.
Sisko is human, and humans can act like "ungrateful asses" when they have experiences which cause their strong emotions to trump their rational thinking. I personally found it refreshing to see this series begin by showing the lead character in an extremely broken state and finding strength and healing through an encounter with alien beings. I also thought it was a bold move on the part of the writers to have Sisko pissed at Picard, however irrational it was from the perspective of anyone other than Sisko!
And without Picard being Locutus, they wouldn't have needed to make them sleep anyway...they could have stopped them with the deflector beam blast.
Not likely, nothing they did to the borg was more than a temporary inconvenience. Without Picard enormous mental effort and Data's initiative, the borg would have assimilated the Earth including SIsko.
You can quibble all you want but it would have meant the assimilation of Sisko's family one Earth. Plus Sisko wouldn't have survived for long surrounded by billions of newly assimilated borg.
My main point was the "Nah, probably not." The other bit was just a nitpick.
Well, my point was that you're dead wrong.
I can't remember the name of the episode as it's been ages since I've seen it but this reminds me of the episode of DS9 with Worf and Jadzia. They're on a mission of mercy and Jadzia gets injured. Worf abandons the mission to get her back to the runabout.
Admittedly we are talking about a Klingon here, but we're talking about a Starfleet Klingon that would have undergone all the same training as Picard, and that went out the window too.
Nah, the deflector trick would have worked. You have my personal guarantee.
If the Borg hadn't gained access to Picard's memory it could very well have worked.
Either way, Picard wouldn't need to go home to beat up his brother ('cause, ya know, training and stuff).
I blame Worf for the massacre. He knew the Borg were interested in Picard specifically, yet there was a minimal security presence on the bridge at the time Picard was abducted.
I'm being quite tongue-in-cheek here, but seriously, when a race that's obviously significantly more technologically advanced than your own claims that they intend to abduct the captain of your flagship, you'd think the least they'd do is assign a few more security officers to the bridge.
I'm being quite tongue-in-cheek here, but seriously, when a race that's obviously significantly more technologically advanced than your own claims that they intend to abduct the captain of your flagship, you'd think the least they'd do is assign a few more security officers to the bridge.
You know, now that you have explained it repeatedly, you're so right. What were the writers thinking? It's so simple! They should have just had someone explain to Sisko how Picard was actually a hero to him and all of humanity. Then he would have quickly understood and he wouldn't have had that ridiculous, irrational, emotional and totally misplaced grudge against Picard in the first place. I'm not sure why someone would have needed to explain that to Sisko because it's so obvious, but whatever - Sisko is an idiot. And just think of how much better the episode would have been without that totally unnecessary and unwarranted tension between Sisko and Picard!
If the writers thought the episode would benefit from a tension between Sisko and someone (I am guessing a higher up) then if it was Picard they should have found a better reason, IE one that didn't make Sisko seem like a fool or they could have chosen someone different from Picard someone who would have done something to Sisko, like the captain of his ship for example who would have made a decision that arguably may have been the indirect cause of Sisko's wife death.
I've read about five pages in and I think that at the end of the pilot Sisko had not so much forgiven Picard as he had put those feeling on hold. I think true forgiveness might have come later, particularly after the events of that one early episode where everybody was possessed by the aliens who were trying to kill each other, so he could now truly relate. (Too lazy to look up the title, but it was the one where Sisko was building the alien clock.)
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