And for a good reason the writers thought it wiser to stay silent and be thought fools than to say anything on the subject and remove all doubts.
Sci Fantasy or do you want Sci Fi?
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And for a good reason the writers thought it wiser to stay silent and be thought fools than to say anything on the subject and remove all doubts.
I personally prefer the term "speculative fiction" than science fiction. You can differentiate from their, I suppose.
You know literally, science fiction simply means "false science". So that should cover pretty much everything, including vampirism, ghosts and whatnot.
How often does Star Trek revolve around a "science"? Usually it's just there to set something in motion. There's not much science in either TOS pilot or in "Encounter At Farpoint".
I don't think being not being in our future is a disqualification for Star Wars
I want the science presented in the plot to make sense, but I still want to hear a whoosh when the ship flies by.
Gravity depicts everything ever launched into space sharing a volume about the size of a living room. It's a good movie, but it's no more hard sci-fi than Star Trek.
Interstellar had Star Trek fantasy elements like time travel and mysterious aliens (or future Humans).
Oh, and shuttles that didn't have enough room for fuel.
And 2001 had alien monoliths and "stargates". Just because something is hard sci-fi doesn't mean it won't have fictional elements.
Which is my point. Star Wars is Science Fiction of the Space Opera sub-genre. Which doesn't make it any less Science Fiction than something in a different SF sub-genre.
But I never disagreed with that. Like I said, Star Wars is a space opera (or epic "sci-fantasy"), 2001: A Space Odyssey is hard sci-fi, another subgenre of science fiction, Blade Runner is cyberpunk, another subgenre, Starship Troopers is military sci-fi, and so on and so on.
How would you characterize "Soylent Green" or "Planet of The Apes"?
Blessed by the presence of Moses?
Blessed by the presence of Moses?
Or Judah.
The other guy could drive a chariot.
And don't forget about The Omega Man. Charlton Heston went through a little sci-fi action star period in the late '60s and early '70s.
I'd be curious to know what you guys think of Zardoz with Sean Connery. It's obviously science fiction but what kind of sci. fi. would you say it is?
Me? Oh, I don't know. I guess for me it would be:
Soylent Green (1973): dystopian future science fiction and
Planet of the Apes (1968): post-apocalyptic science fiction (but that is a huge spoiler of course).
A comic book movie adaptation of a DC comic?
Don't really know but I do know that Sean Connery's Outland (1981) is definitely a science fiction western!
Did you see that movie? It has nothing to do with a comic book adaptation. It's rather deep actually. It's about people that are immortal but have only one wish, which is to die. They can't die because they've built a machine that keeps them alive and they voluntarily removed the information about how the machine works from their memory. They've lived too long and want desperately to die but the machine won't let them.
I think it is related to a story by Asimov. How closely related, I don't know though.
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