Haters of Star Trek: Discovery - wtf?

[The Wormhole]

TNT also seems to stick to its genre shows a little more now - they had the more space-y Falling Skies run for what seemed like forever (and I never warmed to that one, either.)

Falling Skies was crap, I'll agree with you there.

Not to be pissy or anything, but there's no need to be condescending ("let it go") -- Einstein was replying to a specific point made by someone who was saying that the main plot thrust of "Balance of Terror" was a "throwaway line."

It's a complaint about a fourteen year old episode which its producer apologized for the issue being complained about.

 

[eyeresist]

To be honest, I don't have a lot of faith that a new Star Trek series would be good, but I do have faith that a Bryan Fuller series would be good, so I am looking at this as a Fuller sci-fi series first of all. Any Trekiness of setting and themes is a nice added bonus.

 

[psCargile]

Hate is a strong term. I don't hate what ST: Discovery is planned to be, the more I learn about the show, the least interested I am. There are more important things in life than to become upset about a show.

Let's not use "hate" when we mean "disinterested".

 

[topcat]

if you payed attention, the only series that functioned and were actual star trek, TNG and STAR TREK TOS, had once vital important thing about them.

GENE running the show. Once he died, all that was left was his notes for the main synopsis of the remaining years of TNG. once that was gone, and what source material had been left for DS9 was used up, it all went down hill.

The current writers have shit for brains when it comes to trek. The boys of Beyond did a damn good job.

 

[donners22]

I've never hated any Trek series or film, and don't intend to start with this. Been a bit disappointed, or bored, or found myself cringing, but never "hated" it.

I hope it turns out to be good; if not, I've got a hell of a lot of DVDs and Blu-rays to re-watch if I need a Trek fix.

The only thing I hate is the constant negativity of portions of the fanbase, but that's been going for the 20-odd years I've followed Trek, so I have learned to put up with it to a degree.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

if you payed attention, the only series that functioned and were actual star trek, TNG and STAR TREK TOS, had once vital important thing about them.

GENE running the show. Once he died, all that was left was his notes for the main synopsis of the remaining years of TNG. once that was gone, and what source material had been left for DS9 was used up, it all went down hill.

The current writers have shit for brains when it comes to trek. The boys of Beyond did a damn good job.

Gene was cut out of TNG pretty early in the running. And is that part about Beyond supposed to be sarcastic or are you using some completely incomprehensible definition of the term 'current writers'? Because Beyond is the only 'current' Star Trek that anyone can make any actual judgement on.

 

[BillJ]

GENE running the show. Once he died, all that was left was his notes for the main synopsis of the remaining years of TNG. once that was gone, and what source material had been left for DS9 was used up, it all went down hill.

Just no. The last credited script or story to Roddenberry was "Datalore". And we honestly don't know if that was Roddenberry or his personal lawyer doing the rewrites on TNG.

Roddenberry's influence on the show waned pretty early on, from everything I've seen. Chaos on the Bridge states that Maurice Hurley was running the show for the latter part of season one and all of season two. There was a bit of a power struggle and Berman became the full time Executive Producer and Chief of Trek (with Hurley leaving), starting with season three. Hiring, first Michael Wagner, then Micheal Piller to run the writers room.

 

[Dukhat]

if you payed attention, the only series that functioned and were actual star trek, TNG and STAR TREK TOS, had once vital important thing about them.

GENE running the show. Once he died, all that was left was his notes for the main synopsis of the remaining years of TNG. once that was gone, and what source material had been left for DS9 was used up, it all went down hill.

The current writers have shit for brains when it comes to trek. The boys of Beyond did a damn good job.

Other than this quote:

The boys of Beyond did a damn good job.

Everything you said is completely wrong.

 

[suarezguy]

I don't hate the series (although I do kind of hate the idea of paying for it on first watch) but I am skeptical ... a few years before the original series doesn't seem like a very promising setting.

- "A psychologist and a teenager on the bridge? Children on the ship?"
etc. etc. Well, we know how that turned out don't we?

A lot of people never did warm up to Wesley or Troi even though the show was still successful.

 

[locutus101]

You don't have to like every character on the show.

 

[Shalashaska]

To be honest, I don't have a lot of faith that a new Star Trek series would be good, but I do have faith that a Bryan Fuller series would be good, so I am looking at this as a Fuller sci-fi series first of all. Any Trekiness of setting and themes is a nice added bonus.

Pretty much. I have full faith in him.

Say, when does American Gods premiere? It'd be nice if they managed to fit that into January, a better compromise to the delay than that Good Wife spinoff

 

[fireproof78]

I don't hate the series (although I do kind of hate the idea of paying for it on first watch) but I am skeptical ... a few years before the original series doesn't seem like a very promising setting.



A lot of people never did warm up to Wesley or Troi even though the show was still successful.

I never warmed to Troi. Personal tastes and all that.

 

[Amaris]

I had a crush on Wesley when I was a kid, though I only figured that out later on.

 

[locutus101]

I never warmed to Troi. Personal tastes and all that.

"Pain,pain,... Loneliness, terrible loneliness..."

 

[Nerys Myk]

Pretty much. I have full faith in him.

Say, when does American Gods premiere? It'd be nice if they managed to fit that into January, a better compromise to the delay than that Good Wife spinoff

I have faith, faith of the heart.

 

[locutus101]

I just don't understand those haters nor do I wish to.

 

[david kelly]

For all those fans that are so flummoxed by how Trekkies can be zealously hostile to any new iteration of Trek for no reasonable cause, why do you think klingon is so popular?

 

[locutus101]

For all those fans that are so flummoxed by how Trekkies can be zealously hostile to any new iteration of Trek for no reasonable cause, why do you think klingon is so popular?

I don't know why klingon is so popular. Is it?

 

[david kelly]

I don't know why klingon is so popular. Is it?

You havent lived if you've never watched Trek in the original Klingon.

 

[locutus101]

You havent lived if you've never watched Trek in the original Klingon.

You're paraphrasing chang.