It's the original design by Sean Hargreaves. He handed it off to the FX department and they made some changes. The profile is definitely different and much closer to Ryan Church's first few drafts.
*Potential Spoilers* What will the Alternate Enterprise-A look like
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Looks terrific on screen, and the CGI model has differences from Sean Hargreaves' excellent concept art.
For those who wanted more of an original series Enterprise style, this is the closest one yet.
Speaking of close, this is the closest I've seen to what we saw in the movie.
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For those who wanted more of an original series Enterprise style, this is the closest one yet.
Speaking of close, this is the closest I've seen to what we saw in the movie.
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Looks terrific on screen, and the CGI model has differences from Sean Hargreaves' excellent concept art.
For those who wanted more of an original series Enterprise style, this is the closest one yet.
Speaking of close, this is the closest I've seen to what we saw in the movie.
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I honestly still don't like it. The JJprize was a hot-rod, but the Kelvin-timeline A is somehow a lot less fast-looking and ordinary than the TOS original.
But I guess taste is entirely subjective. I didn't like the JJprise when I first saw her, now she has very much grown on me.
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I like them both, though I know the "A" ticks off some of the boxes of things that many have complained of and "fixed", so it's probably going to be the more popular model. For me, it's just more starship eye candy to look at.
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I think these line drawings are quite close to the finished thing:
http://sequbu.deviantart.com/art/STB-E-A-4-625231615
http://sequbu.deviantart.com/art/STB-E-A-1-625229716
If that's indeed the case the E-A has got a nice TOS feel IMO.
http://sequbu.deviantart.com/art/STB-E-A-4-625231615
http://sequbu.deviantart.com/art/STB-E-A-1-625229716
If that's indeed the case the E-A has got a nice TOS feel IMO.
Neck needs to slant towards saucer more looks too straight BUT looks great
Hopefully interior will be changed too
Bye bye white walls n black floors PLEASE
Yes. And I think the pylons need to be swept backward a bit, too.
For me personally, it's the bloated pylons and neck. Now, I understand the story reasons for it -- those were the most vulnerable parts during Krall's attack -- but design-wise, the neck makes it looked hunched over. If the Enterprise were alive, I imagine she'd need a neck massage. I liked the E-A when I first saw it, I admit. My jaw dropped. But it seems to be just a really good angle. Though, in fairness, the designer said that the producers probably made a few adjustments and we haven't truly seen the ship yet, so I hope that he eased up on the neck and pylons.
Maybe if the neck didn't extend so far along the secondary hull. Make the neck wider sure, but not necessarily longer at the base. The Deviantart renditions linked a few posts up, I think, are a great improvement.
I have the same problems with one of Star Trek Online's Galaxy refits, the Venture-class. The neck extends just about to the aft torpedo launcher!
I was watching the end of Into Darkness and it really looks like the only visible change on the repaired Enterprise is the impulse engine. It's difficult to tell because there are only a couple of shots and the one at the very end is a pretty forced perspective but it really doesn't look like there are any changes to the nacelle size or the pylons. That would imply that the smaller nacelles and swept back pylons occurred sometime between STID and STB.
During STB, every time the ship was onscreen I was studying it closely and I'm embarrassed to admit I barely noticed the pylon change and I didn't pick up on the smaller nacelles at all until I saw pictures after the fact. I think a big part of that is because a lot of the shots that aren't frontal views are those weird, stretched forced perspectives that make it difficult to judge proportions. Did anyone else have that experience?
All of that has me wondering if they'll make any changes between the end of STB and the beginning of the next one. With the ease of rejiggering the CG models it seems like major structural changes like that are no longer considered any big deal.
During STB, every time the ship was onscreen I was studying it closely and I'm embarrassed to admit I barely noticed the pylon change and I didn't pick up on the smaller nacelles at all until I saw pictures after the fact. I think a big part of that is because a lot of the shots that aren't frontal views are those weird, stretched forced perspectives that make it difficult to judge proportions. Did anyone else have that experience?
All of that has me wondering if they'll make any changes between the end of STB and the beginning of the next one. With the ease of rejiggering the CG models it seems like major structural changes like that are no longer considered any big deal.
Oh, I have no doubt that it'll be tweaked. There's a reason we never got a great look in the movie or saw the interiors.
There was also new new detail in the rectangular indents on the hoods of the nacelles.
They're there on the Beyond Enterprise's nacelles too
An important thing to remember is that the Enterprise stayed the same in the first two movies because they both had the same director. Lin's tastes are different from J.J's and he had some details changed. Whoever directs the next movie will have their own opinion and may change it again.
One difference with the Enterprise between the 2009 and Into Darkness was that the registry wasn't painted on the bottom of the secondary hull in Into Darkness.
True. Lin's Beyond actually gave us two brand new Enterprises different from the '09/ID JJprise.
USS Enterprise (2009/STID):
http://s33.postimg.org/p72f7lvj3/enterprisebeyond.jpg
USS Enterprise (Beyond):
https://s32.postimg.org/b2h98qylh/enterprisebeyond.jpg
USS Enterprise-A (Beyond):
http://trekcore.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/ent-a.jpg
I found this today...
It's actually a concept design for the Enterprise-F but I thought it would have made a perfect Enterprise-A for the Kelvin Universe. It looks like a natural progression of the updated original.
For more pics, look up Chris Madden Enterprise F.
It's actually a concept design for the Enterprise-F but I thought it would have made a perfect Enterprise-A for the Kelvin Universe. It looks like a natural progression of the updated original.
For more pics, look up Chris Madden Enterprise F.
The Beyond 1701 looks a lot better proportioned with the nacelles a little less ample.
I liked how the 1701-A looked in the brief moments we saw it on screen, but looking at those pictures I'm not keen on the arse end of it at all, and I don't like how the neck is perfectly perpendicular to the saucer at the front end, it just looks blunt. It looks great from the front, and not-so-great from other angles. Hope there are some alterations just to finesse the overall shape for the next film.
I hadn't noticed the extra phaser banks on the saucer. That seems to confirm that there's no way that the new Lin design from the beginning of Beyond could be the same as the repaired Enterprise from the very end of Into Darkness (not that I thought it was). Again (assuming these photos are accurate), that would imply that sometime during their mission, in between those two movies, they would've refitted the saucer with double the phaser banks, enlarged and added windows around the rim, and completely replaced the neck, pylons, and nacelles.
With the ease that the designers can tweak these models now, it seems like we have to accept that major reconfigurations like these are fairly standard.
The neck on the ship in the film was not perpendicular to the saucer like in the concept art, and near as I can tell, neither is the aft end of the ship.
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