List of Trek questions that keep us up at night

[Finn]

I just had a question...a bit morbid maybe, but it must have been hard for Starfleet to inform the families and friends of those about the fate of those who had died between Caretaker and Message in a Bottle.

Chakotay talked about how many would have dealt with the loss and found a way to move on. How would those who learned their loved ones died differently or horribly, not just perished in the badlands....like Hogan or Durst? Those families would be enduring the loss..for the second time, while possibly watching the families celebrate that their love ones are still alive and well...

I don't envy the one who talked to Hogan's or Durst's families.

"Mr. and Mrs. Durst, It turns out your son died after being held by an alien race going through a zombie apocalypse, a few months after Voyager went missing. Your child died when one of them needed a new face"

"Mr and Mrs. Hogan, it turns out your son didn't perish in the badlands with the other Maquis. They were pulled to the Delta Quadrant where they joined Voyager who also was pulled. About two years after they went missing, your son was stranded on a barren planet with proto-humanoids when he got eaten by a cave monster, and his bones stolen by dinosaurs.

I wonder if they told Jonas' family that he conspired with a Cardassian (remember they were at war with Cardies at the time....). Did they even bother to let Seska's family know...?

 

[Richard Baker]

I think I read a theory somewhere that Seven of Nine may have been in charge of feeding at the Borg nursery.

And @locutus101 , don't forget to use an @ symbol to notify others outside of quotes. I'd say a Borg would have to adapt if it stands a chance against a Founder. Assimilation by nanoprobes only has been seen attempted once (to Phlox) that I recall. It takes a long time, versus the usual method of strapping the individual down and giving a concentrated dose and other means.

If Phlox could get out of assimilation with a heavy immune system and guile (and Omicron radiation), I'm sure a well-trained Founder might be able to shape-shift around the microscopic robots attempting to latch onto individual cells. Younger ones (like Odo) probably couldn't though.

But... Founders don't have a central nervous system. In fact, I have no idea how they individually exist or how their biology works. It's just an assumption that they must be composed of individual cells, but maybe that's flawed. So it's possible that a Borg nanoprobe couldn't make heads or tails of it either. If the Borg can't assimilate a lump of goo, they would probably just ignore it, or figure a way to destroy it, if it causes issues.

This is where the Borg Queen comes in, to tell the dumb drones that the Founder is an important species, worthy of assimilation, despite it not matching the parameters of humanoid life. Then they might try to think of a way to adapt to assimilating one. If they can, then Founders (and other shapeshifters) will be hunted down as the next big step in the search for perfection. If they can't, no way no how, then the Borg might still hunt them all down as a threat to their perfection.

Either way, a Borg-Dominion War is likely if the two had ever crossed.

The Cardassians came up wit a way to freeze Odo into one shape and the Founders were able to remove Odo's shapeshifting abilities and give him a functional biology. I am sure the Borg Collective could come up with a way to assimilate the Founders if they focused on it.

I want to know what Morn's voice sounds like.

 

[locutus101]

The Cardassians came up wit a way to freeze Odo into one shape and the Founders were able to remove Odo's shapeshifting abilities and give him a functional biology. I am sure the Borg Collective could come up with a way to assimilate the Founders if they focused on it.

I want to know what Morn's voice sounds like.

I you mean the actor that wore the morn suit. I believe he's made a video about it.

 

[The Wormhole]

I just had a question...a bit morbid maybe, but it must have been hard for Starfleet to inform the families and friends of those about the fate of those who had died between Caretaker and Message in a Bottle.

I've actually had similar thoughts though, but about the ones who were killed when Voyager was brought into the Delta Quadrant by the Caretaker. I'm sure Commander Cavit's family didn't share in the jubilation of learning Voyager was in fact in the Delta Quadrant four years after it was declared MIA now that they had certain confirmation he was dead.

Or then there's Lt. Carey's family, who go four years with him being MIA, then go three years knowing he's alive but on the ass-end of the galaxy, then he gets killed just a few weeks prior to the ship's return home.

 

[Richard Baker]

No, the character Morn. He was described as very talkative, was seen chatting up the Dabo girls and telling jokes in the background scenes but we never heard him utter a single word on camera.

 

[Finn]

I've actually had similar thoughts though, but about the ones who were killed when Voyager was brought into the Delta Quadrant by the Caretaker. I'm sure Commander Cavit's family didn't share in the jubilation of learning Voyager was in fact in the Delta Quadrant four years after it was declared MIA now that they had certain confirmation he was dead.

Or then there's Lt. Carey's family, who go four years with him being MIA, then go three years knowing he's alive but on the ass-end of the galaxy, then he gets killed just a few weeks prior to the ship's return home.

This made me think of something. Message in the Bottle was early in the war, before Romulans joined the fighting. What if Voyager had a crew member from a starfleet family who was hit badly by the war.

Doc may have bought bad news, more than just "Everybody back home is in middle of a terrible war". "I was told your mom, the Captain of USS ****, was killed trying to take back DS9".

I was a bit irked by showing only Chakotay then B'Elanna dealing with the news about the Maquis Massacre. Surely everybody aboard Voyager aside from Neelix and Seven, had some kind of connection with folks who was killed in the war....

 

[The Wormhole]

This made me think of something. Message in the Bottle was early in the war, before Romulans joined the fighting. What if Voyager had a crew member from a starfleet family who was hit badly by the war.

Doc may have bought bad news, more than just "Everybody back home is in middle of a terrible war". "I was told your mom, the Captain of USS ****, was killed trying to take back DS9".

Well, we kind of did get something similar when they start getting letters from home and Chakotay and B'Elanna learn most of the Maquis had been slaughtered by the Dominion.

 

[Mojochi]

For quite a long time, The Borg seem indifferent to Data, but their whole concept seems to be absorbing tech. Wouldn't Data represent a treasure trove of exactly what they could use?

 

[locutus101]

For quite a long time, The Borg seem indifferent to Data, but their whole concept seems to be absorbing tech. Wouldn't Data represent a treasure trove of exactly what they could use?

More than indifferent, contemptuous, Locutus said that he was obsolete.

 

[Finn]

I thought of something. Would it have been awesome if someone from Seska's family sent a letter, addressed to Chakotay, just to stir the pot?

 

[Mojochi]

More than indifferent, contemptuous, Locutus said that he was obsolete.

Yup, exactly, but how can that really be? Clearly UFP technology is worth absorbing, & Data is perhaps the pinnacle, state of the art UFP tech, & what more, he represents a whole kind of tech specifically suited to serve a collective based in cybornetics

I've always fancied the notion that once Picard had been assimilated, the Borg would see fit to use the knowledge of his mechanical heart, for example. In many ways, it would be far more preferable to them to have a mechanical one over a weak organ. I'd think the same of Geordi's visor, or Data's eyes. I could foresee whole series of upgrades using those techs. If a Borg were missing a limb, what better model for replacement could they have than Data's?

Heck, I always tinkered with the notion that Geordi's movie ocular implants may have benefited from some collaborative efforts with Data. Data sees like a human, & Geordi sees like a machine. What two better officers are there to work the problem such that they could both see either way, once they work the tech? That should go for the Borg too really

In essence, Picard & Geordi already have cyborg parts

 

[Six of Twelve]

The Cardassians came up wit a way to freeze Odo into one shape and the Founders were able to remove Odo's shapeshifting abilities and give him a functional biology. I am sure the Borg Collective could come up with a way to assimilate the Founders if they focused on it.

I want to know what Morn's voice sounds like.

The actor who wore the Morn suit is the same one who played Icheb's father on the Voyager episode Child's Play. I guess he would have affected a different voice had Morn spoke, however.

 

[locutus101]

Yup, exactly, but how can that really be? Clearly UFP technology is worth absorbing, & Data is perhaps the pinnacle, state of the art UFP tech, & what more, he represents a whole kind of tech specifically suited to serve a collective based in cybornetics

I've always fancied the notion that once Picard had been assimilated, the Borg would see fit to use the knowledge of his mechanical heart, for example. In many ways, it would be far more preferable to them to have a mechanical one over a weak organ. I'd think the same of Geordi's visor, or Data's eyes. I could foresee whole series of upgrades using those techs. If a Borg were missing a limb, what better model for replacement could they have than Data's?

Heck, I always tinkered with the notion that Geordi's movie ocular implants may have benefited from some collaborative efforts with Data. Data sees like a human, & Geordi sees like a machine. What two better officers are there to work the problem such that they could both see either way, once they work the tech? That should go for the Borg too really

In essence, Picard & Geordi already have cyborg parts

I think the borg have lost their way. Back in Picard's time they were interested in assimilating people, species not technology. Somehow along the way they shifted their focus from people to technology and where only interested in people that possessed great technology. The end result is that Picard's borg are very different from Janeway's borg, in many ways.

 

[Finn]

Though I always thought the Borg ignoring technology was bullshit.

 

[locutus101]

Though I always thought the Borg ignoring technology was bullshit.

I don't know what you mean by that. It's obvious that back in Locutus time the borg weren't interested in technology but in people. Locutus never said anything about "your technological bullshit will be made part of our own" he said instead that each of the species of the federation would be made part of the borg..; Just read the script!!!

The technological patter is a late addition.

 

[The Wormhole]

The actor who wore the Morn suit is the same one who played Icheb's father on the Voyager episode Child's Play. I guess he would have affected a different voice had Morn spoke, however.

This is a common mistake everyone makes, but Mark Allen Shepherd, who played Morn, is a completely different person from noted genre actor Mark A Sheppard, who played Icheb's father and is the real life son of frequent Trek guest star W Morgan Sheppard.

 

[locutus101]

This is a common mistake everyone makes, but Mark Allen Shepherd, who played Morn, is a completely different person from noted genre actor Mark A Sheppard, who played Icheb's father and is the real life son of frequent Trek guest star W Morgan Sheppard.

Yes he was Data's Grandpa.

 

[retroenzo]

How do children in Trek grow so fast? Alexander, Naomi, Molly O'Brien, Ian Andrew Troi (actually forget that last one)

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

The actor who wore the Morn suit is the same one who played Icheb's father on the Voyager episode Child's Play.

No, they are not.

The one who played Morn is named Mark Shepherd.
The one who was Icheb's father (and Romo Lampkin and Crowley from Supernatural and Canton Everett Delaware from DW, etc.) is Mark Sheppard.

Not the same person at all.

Although Shepherd did have another role, as the Bajoran who sits in Morn's old chair.

 

[The Wormhole]

How do children in Trek grow so fast? Alexander, Naomi, Molly O'Brien, Ian Andrew Troi (actually forget that last one)

Alexander and Naomi are because they're part alien, and presumably Klingons and Ktarians age quicker. I don't know what you mean about Molly O'Brien, since she was played by the same actress throughout TNG and DS9 she literally did age at a normal rate.