Luke Cage-- Marvel/Netflix
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Based on one of the spoiler free reviews, I'm just shocked that
Despite that, I doubt I'll watch any of it. Marvel's Netflix shows in general act more like the DCEU (being literally and figuratively dark) and Fox's X-Men (very obviously ashamed of the comic book source material) combined then they do the MCU (without the entertaining heroes and stories of most of the X-Men movies). If I want dull and grim superheroes I'll watch a DC movie, and if I want an entertaining movie that really wishes it wasn't a superhero movie I'll rewatch an X-Men movie. The Nolan-esque "grounded" hero approach that the Marvel Netflix shows take has just worn me out. I hated it when he did it, and they took his approach and somehow did it worse. Maybe someday the Marvel movie people will get control of the Netflix shows and drag them out of the dark pit of Nolan Grimness they're stuck in. Until then, I'll stick with the real MCU, the one that doesn't come off as written by people who hate comics and love grim, depressing stories.
It has a lot of scenes filmed in the daylight. Daredevil and Jessica Jones looked like they were filmed by mole people when it comes to how much both shows hate the light and only used it when basically forced to by the story, so having a character who isn't allergic to sunlight is a welcome change.
Despite that, I doubt I'll watch any of it. Marvel's Netflix shows in general act more like the DCEU (being literally and figuratively dark) and Fox's X-Men (very obviously ashamed of the comic book source material) combined then they do the MCU (without the entertaining heroes and stories of most of the X-Men movies). If I want dull and grim superheroes I'll watch a DC movie, and if I want an entertaining movie that really wishes it wasn't a superhero movie I'll rewatch an X-Men movie. The Nolan-esque "grounded" hero approach that the Marvel Netflix shows take has just worn me out. I hated it when he did it, and they took his approach and somehow did it worse. Maybe someday the Marvel movie people will get control of the Netflix shows and drag them out of the dark pit of Nolan Grimness they're stuck in. Until then, I'll stick with the real MCU, the one that doesn't come off as written by people who hate comics and love grim, depressing stories.
Never heard of the group, but Google tells me that the former was just a nonsense word with sexual connotations, although it's often been interpreted as an acronym for "Do What You Can, Kid." I'd imagine the episode will probably tend toward the latter intepretation. "Steez" appears to be a portmanteau of "style" and "ease."
"You want some?"
*Hint-- you don't*
*Hint-- you don't*
"Be King."
I'm looking forward to this. I've enjoyed Daredevil (well, season one moreso than two) and Jessica Jones, and can't wait to see the latest Netflix/Marvel production.
I think I'm enjoying the TV shows more than the films. It's natural though, as with a 13 episode season, they have more time to tell a story and develop characters. I love the MCU films but the TV universe is more rich.
I think I'm enjoying the TV shows more than the films. It's natural though, as with a 13 episode season, they have more time to tell a story and develop characters. I love the MCU films but the TV universe is more rich.
Ah, so I see Alfre Woodard's character in this isn't the same as who she played in Civil War. When she was announced for the latter (having already known she'd be in Luke Cage) I was hoping for at least a little crossover thingy. But guess not.
I like these Netflix shows, but I really don't see the point of saying they're in the MCU. You may as well just say Annie Hall or the Blair Witch or Fawlty Towers or Hannah Montana take place in the MCU too. They never reference each other but who cares
I like these Netflix shows, but I really don't see the point of saying they're in the MCU. You may as well just say Annie Hall or the Blair Witch or Fawlty Towers or Hannah Montana take place in the MCU too. They never reference each other but who cares
It benefits the shows to present themselves as a continuation of the really, really successful movie series. It's not about story continuity, it's about promotion and getting eyes on the product. The references don't go the other way because the movies are successful enough on their own that they don't need anything from the TV shows.
Marvel's Netflix shows aren't the only "dark and grim" material it has released. I'm watching "Captain America: The Winter Soldier", one of the grimmest stories in the MCU. In fact, the Captain America movies tend to end on a less than happy note.
The Captain America films are still MCU films. I don't need movies to have a happy ending, or not get dark. Netflix shows went to the Nolan school of superheroes, where everything is "grounded" and every character is depressed and hates being a hero. They depowered Jessica Jones and Luke Cage because super powers are a no-no to them, and then made Punisher into a crybaby because...its grounded that someone like him would have crippling emotional problems? I guess? I can't explain Elektra, except that someone really hated the character or didn't even bother to read her wikipedia page before writing her on the show.
Daredevil got a pass because he doesn't have physical powers, and hyper senses are more acceptable to writers who just want dark, depressing stories about unlikable people who like to brood and might occasionally help people. Daredevil also got to be the only openly heroic character in the Netflix shows because he came first, and they decided to make Foggy the a-hole who hates heroics.
The fact that JJ and DD live in a world where there are 'supers' *is* referenced though. They frequently mention the alien attack on NY (it's basically the '9/11' of the Marvel timeline), JJ gets screwed over by a couple that hates supers, etc.
Say what you will about the Berlantiverse but it's nice to see TV shows that really embrace the comic book aspect and not shy away from it. Gotham started off seeming grounded but quickly ran straight to bonkers as well.
"I guess you guys haven't heard about me."
"Who is Luke Cage?"
Is it any surprise that it's getting good reviews? Netflix has had a great track record with Daredevil and Jessica Jones. I expected no less from Luke Cage. I'm also glad to hear that the music is going to be a "character" in the show. That usually works out well. Look at Guardians of the Galaxy.