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MeTV's SuperSci-Fi Saturday Night

David Barron(?)
Barrett.

gets a job helping young artist Renee Stevens drive as part of her move back to her old family home.
In "New Oxford"...did anyone catch a clue as to the state? Sounds like they were going for a Connecticutish vibe.

David helps her recover
They miss no opportunity lately to have him show off his medical know-how...and the Undercover Doctor angle does come into play later.

Touring the home, they run into Bernard, the odd caretaker who is put off that Renee is moving in--and makes a point to ask her if she's visited the mill.
That nerd must be evil! EEEVILLLLL!!!

leading to a confrontation between Lewitt and Bernard
He's EVIL I tell you!

When a broken overhead light socket electrifies a gate David grabs, the Hulk is triggered.
-25:36. And you just knew he was gonna move that piano

Bernard watches...
EEEEEVILLLLLLL!!!!!

Bernard balks at David's "interference" and storms off.
David returns to the mill seeking answers, but runs into Bernard
...
(Think you've got the gist of it by now.)

David is flung over the wheel, causing him to Hulk out.
At -3:56, our new champion for latest Second Hulk-Out by over a minute!

In the process, he wrecks the wheel, but saves Becky.
There are a couple of shots of the Hulk busting up the wheel where there's something weird gong on with his forehead being unusually large...I think maybe they were trying to camouflage a helmet under Ferrigno's Hulk make-up....

Bernard (now knowing the truth) and David settle their differences
He's...not evil...!?!

as David walks off.
Again dressed more warmly than in the rest of the episode, but this time not for a stock Lonely Man shot.

The ending seems a little too pat...they namedrop a doctor and institute, but you feel like David should be Lonely Manning away from a hospital.

This is not a cure-related episode.
David is reduced to helping a total stranger move...something that best friends try to avoid--Perhaps the ultimate form of Just Schlepping Around.

McGee will return with force in the next episode...
Indeed...we have a landmark, premise-altering two-parter ahead.

Initially I thought it was going to be someone gaslighting Renee and trying to get the house from her, and we were certainly given enough red herrings for that idea.
[...]
I think the episode did strain to fit into the required two-Hulkouts formula. David's first Hulkout was triggered in a rather Rube-Goldberg fashion, and his confused rampage through the empty house didn't really contribute anything meaningful to the plot. I'd be tempted to think it was another one of those generic TV scripts rewritten to fit this show
It struck me as a half-hour Twilight Zone premise padded out with the real estate plot that didn't go anywhere and the nerdy guy's creepy stalkerishness and conspicuous accent not paying off. You know the Hulk-Outs are being shoehorned in when he's reduced to pushing around some furniture without even being seen by anybody. And that wasn't even his most impressive run-in with a stuffed bear...!

the unintentional comedy of David clinging to the water wheel.
Ah, you noticed that too?

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There are a couple of shots of the Hulk busting up the wheel where there's something weird gong on with his forehead being unusually large...I think maybe they were trying to camouflage a helmet under Ferrigno's Hulk make-up....

I figured it was just that his hair was flattened out by being wet, so the forehead seemed more pronounced by contrast.

Also, there were shots where you could see Ferrigno's makeup rubbing off onto Carol Baxter's clothes.


The ending seems a little too pat...they namedrop a doctor and institute, but you feel like David should be Lonely Manning away from a hospital.

It was a pretty abrupt adjustment, but that's episodic TV for ya.


Indeed...we have a landmark, premise-altering two-parter ahead.

Which was a pretty unusual step for the era, to make that kind of permanent change in the status quo. Generally that only happened with a cast change, and replacement cast members were often pretty interchangeable with their predecessors. Or with a network-mandated retool that changed the show into something completely different, like the second seasons of Space: 1999 and Buck Rogers.

You know the Hulk-Outs are being shoehorned in when he's reduced to pushing around some furniture without even being seen by anybody.

Although it did have a certain "bull in a china shop" charm to it -- the incongruity of the Hulk in such fine surroundings.

They even had a harp, in addition to the piano. Having just completed a rather different rewatch last week, I was a bit disappointed that Harpo Marx didn't show up to play a solo. (Although the Hulk seems more like a character for Abbott & Costello to cross over with than the Marx Brothers.)
 
I figured it was just that his hair was flattened out by being wet, so the forehead seemed more pronounced by contrast.
I don't think it's that...freezing it on Netflix, there definitely seems to be a little something extra bulging out of his exposed fake forehead.
 
Barrett.


In "New Oxford"...did anyone catch a clue as to the state? Sounds like they were going for a Connecticutish vibe.

I'm not sure a city or state was mentioned, but I think your suspicion is correct.


That nerd must be evil! EEEVILLLLL!!!

Well....nerds are evil. ...and Bernard is any indicator, sweaty, too. ;)

There are a couple of shots of the Hulk busting up the wheel where there's something weird gong on with his forehead being unusually large...I think maybe they were trying to camouflage a helmet under Ferrigno's Hulk make-up....

If true, why not use his stuntman (fellow bodybuilder) instead of risking the star? They did not need ECUs for the scene, so a double would have worked fine.


He's...not evil...!?!

One in a million...

The ending seems a little too pat...they namedrop a doctor and institute, but you feel like David should be Lonely Manning away from a hospital.

Maybe, but most of this episode was shot on the backlot, so no need to send a crew ($) outside of some building just to see David walking away.


David is reduced to helping a total stranger move...something that best friends try to avoid--Perhaps the ultimate form of Just Schlepping Around.


Indeed...we have a landmark, premise-altering two-parter ahead.

Yep--and McGee's own words will be used against him (at least for audiences with a good memory).


It struck me as a half-hour Twilight Zone premise padded out with the real estate plot that didn't go anywhere and the nerdy guy's creepy stalkerishness and conspicuous accent not paying off. You know the Hulk-Outs are being shoehorned in when he's reduced to pushing around some furniture without even being seen by anybody. And that wasn't even his most impressive run-in with a stuffed bear...!

I think the Lewitt sub-plot was deliberately left a non-factor, to avoid a repeat of the more significant company-man-wants-you-to-sell-your______ plot from "Wildfire."



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Talk about a flashback to that period!
 
Which words are those?

From "Stop the Presses"--the scene of McGee analyzing the Arnold character's motives & ethics as a reporter. As I mentioned in that review, much of the meaning behind McGee's own words--true as they were about Arnold--will be used against him (unknowingly by Banner) in "Mystery Man."
 
Wow... So how much of that new schedule do we want to cover in this thread? For myself, I'll at least probably want to watch Wild Wild West and Planet of the Apes, though I'm not sure how much need there will be for detailed reviews. Not sure how much of the Irwin Allen stuff I'll check out.

And it looks like we're saying farewell to Adventures of Superman, as well as The Man from UNCLE in late-night, though Get Smart is moving to Sundays.

I'm probably going to want to check out a few episodes of LAND OF THE GIANTS and THE TIME TUNNEL for nostalgia's sake . . . although I wouldn't be surprised if it only takes one or two eps of each to scratch that itch.

I remember enjoying them both as a kid.
 
On September 10th, Svengoolie will be showing "The Cage." I'll have to make time for that one.

This is a landmark episode for me. Regular readers may recall me mentioning that I generally avoided the show for its early episodes because of a childhood fear of the Hulk. Seeing the original airing of this episode at a friend's house began my regular watching of the series (and with it, the Hulk quickly becoming the favorite comic book character of my pre-teen years). As I fuzzily recall, I saw rebroadcasts of earlier episodes in the regular timeslot in the weeks between this episode and "Mystery Man".
Cool. That reminds me that I managed to see that Kryptonite robot episode of Superman during the binge a few weeks ago, and managed to not flee from the room crying. :rommie:
 
I'm probably going to want to check out a few episodes of LAND OF THE GIANTS and THE TIME TUNNEL for nostalgia's sake . . . although I wouldn't be surprised if it only takes one or two eps of each to scratch that itch.

I think I can give TTT a pass, but I wouldn't mind visiting LOTG again. I always appreciated its two most visually spectacular elements: 1) The giant props and visual effects, and 2) Deanna Lund.
 
I'm probably going to want to check out a few episodes of LAND OF THE GIANTS and THE TIME TUNNEL for nostalgia's sake . . . although I wouldn't be surprised if it only takes one or two eps of each to scratch that itch.

I remember enjoying them both as a kid.

I might revisit POTA--it only produced 14 episodes, so there's no subconscious, uncomfortable feeling about the idea of committing to a show that goes on and on and on, with the worst waiting for you (e.g., Batman's third season).
 
Tonight's episode:

The Incredible Hulk
"Mystery Man"
Originally aired March 2, 1979

A car accident leaves David with amnesia and his face covered in bandages. While en route to see a specialist, the plane that David—and Jack McGee—are in crashes.


In the news the week that the episode aired:

February 24 – Ethiopia recognizes the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic (SADR).
February 26 – A total solar eclipse, the last visible from the continental United States until 2017, arcs over northern coterminous USA and southeastern Canada ending in Greenland. A partial solar eclipse is visible over almost all of North America and Central America including the eastern half of AK and the western half of UK.
February 27 – The annual Mardi Gras celebration in New Orleans is cancelled due to a strike called by the New Orleans Police Department.

March 1
Scottish devolution referendum: Scotland votes in favour for a Scottish Assembly, which is not implemented due to failing a condition that at least 40% of the electorate must support the proposal; in a Welsh devolution referendum, Wales votes against devolution.
Philips publicly demonstrate a prototype of an optical digital audio disc at a press conference in Eindhoven, Netherlands.


And some new arrivals on the U.S. charts during the hiatus between episodes:

"Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground)," The Jacksons
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So are we going to save part 2 for next week or watch the whole thing at once? It was originally aired in two parts, for what it's worth.
 
Next week...that's when Me's showing it. It was indeed always a two-parter. Part II aired March 9.

I didn't specify "Part I" in this case because it isn't in the episode title as it appears onscreen.
 
"Mystery Man" (Part One) --

On the road, David (trying to get to San Diego) accepts a ride from bubbly "country girl" type Rose Sanders, who is on her way to Santa Fe, New Mexico. He gets more than he bargained for, as the woman quickly sinks into a stream of teary-eyed complaints about her unfaithful husband (and men in general). Despite David pleading with the woman to be mindful of her driving, she's increasingly erratic, speeding and turning wildly until she loses control, crashing through a guard rail--sending the vehicle tumbling over and again.

Eerily reminiscent of the crash that killed Laura Banner, Rose (like David) is sent flying from the car, while David (similar to Laura) is trapped in the car, its leaked fuel igniting.

David's legs are pinned under the crushed dashboard, and in the frantic struggle to escape, he transforms into the Hulk--just as two men (spotting the accident) observe. The enraged creature breaks out of the car, then flips it over, but is caught in the blast from the exploding gas tank--his hair burning. As the two onlookers race to Rose, elsewhere, the Hulk staggers, holding his head as if in a daze, then falls to the ground. The police arrive, and eventually find the unconscious David.

The next day, at St.Monica's Hospital (still in Santa Fe), the groggy Banner is examined by a doctor, who tells him of the crash--and questions him about his general identity. In a passageway, Jack McGee arrives (undoubtedly following the report of a Hulk sighting near the accident). That evening, the doctor explains--

Doctor: "Now, what's happened to you is not uncommon. Concussions--especially severe ones--can sometimes cause temporary amnesia."
David: "Did...uh...did I have any identification?"
Doctor: "No, I'm afraid not. The car burned. There is a slightly scorched duffel bag in our property office. it's probably yours."
David: "What was in it--no name on it, initials..something?"
Doctor: "Nope. You're officially listed as 'John Doe.'

At the nurses' station, McGee's promises of publicity leads nurse Edith Phalen to divulge David's room number...

David feels hopeless about his memory loss--

David: "Everything's just a blank...it's as if it has all been erased."
Doctor: "I'm sure after you've rested a little bit more, the pieces will start fitting together."
David: "It's really frightening doctor. I feel as if I've been....born...right here in this room when I woke up."
Doctor: "I understand the disorientation, but you mustn't give up hope; there are no set rules governing amnesia."

At that moment, McGee barges in the room--only to see the patient's face completely bandaged.

David's memory: As McGee introduces himself to the doctor, the name and face sends his mind recalling his first meeting with McGee so long ago.

The doctor does not think it is wise for McGee to question "John Doe," but David's memory--the familiarity with McGee's face holds some answer for him, so...

David: "Is it all right, doctor--please? I think I know him."
Doctor: "Are you sure?"
David: "I'm not sure of anything, but it's a feeling, uh..a flash of recognition..a feeling."
Doctor: (to McGee) "Okay, just a few minutes, alright?
McGee: "Thank you, doctor. Thank you very much."

David:
"You're a reporter?"
McGee: "Yeah--uh, National Register. That could be where you think you know me. I used to have a column--a photograph--a byline...you could have read the column..seen the picture..stick in your memories--a subconscious sort of thing."
David: "I--I don't think that was it...have you seen me before?"
McGee: "Hard to say with the way they've got you rigged up here."
Doctor: "Flash burns and lacerations--the bandages will come off in about a week. Maybe less."
McGee:"I uh--I interviewed Mrs. Sanders. She's the one who was driving the car. Mrs. Rose Sanders? All she could remember is you mentioned having come from Oklahoma City--that ring a bell?"
David: "No..uh, nothing."
McGee: "I was afraid of that. That was my tie-in, that's why I came here."
David:"I'm sorry, I don't understand."
McGee: "Oklahoma City--that's the last place anyone saw the Hulk--Oklahoma. Here--there he is...that's the Hulk."

David stares at a photo of the creature--

David's memory: Caroline's therapy--the caged Hulk reaching for David from "Married" / The Hulk's first night during the lightning storm from "The Incredible Hulk."

McGee: "What is it? What's matter? Are you remembering something?
David: "The accident I was in--was it raining?"

Referencing the accident with Rose, coupled with David's mind linking the Hulk to an accident (the night the Hulk was "born.") gets several "wheels" turning. The doctor produces a Register clipping of the Hulk that was in David's possession at the time of the accident. McGee believes that the clipping, plus David's reaction to McGee's files means this "John Doe" has some connection to the Hulk.

The doctor tells McGee "John Doe" is suffering from traumatic amnesia, which not understood to any acceptable degree, and adds if McGee & "John Doe" really know each other, perhaps that association will help restore his memory. He adds that a specialist in Los Angeles--a Dr. Sidney Brandis--has had success with traumatic amnesia.

McGee convinces "John Doe" to charter a plane to see Dr. Brandis in L.A.; aboard the plane, McGee admits his motives for helping are not entirely altruistic--if J.D. leads McGee to the Hulk, he gets his story, and the mystery man gets the $10,000 reward. The pilot warns McGee about the weather conditions; the shaky flight triggers--

David's memory: David (from "747") at the controls of the airplane just as he's turning into the Hulk / As the Hulk, hanging by his fingers from the cargo hold of the plane

The violent storm unnerves McGee, the reporter revealing that even though he was in the Air Force (in Korea), he still never enjoyed flying. Moments later, the plane's oil line is damaged from a lightning strike; as the pilot struggles with the descending plane, David & McGee brace themselves, just as the plane crashes deep in a forest area, somewhere in Arizona.

Recovering from the crash, David carries McGee from the plane--the pilot died on impact. McGee's leg has been injured, which sparks David's medical knowledge:

David: "I think a tibia may be broken...you have a very deep laceration here in the thigh...I don't know--a good possibility of a compound fracture."
McGee: "Ohh beautiful. My Cup Runneth Over."

David makes a splint for McGee's leg, but hesitates by yet another memory--somehow, he learned to make splits as someone...

David--seeking answers about himself, asks about McGee's own background--

David: "Tell me something about yourself--for example, what city are you from?"
McGee: "St. Louis."
David: "Tell me what St. Louis is like--maybe I've been there."
McGee: "Not much to tell about St. Louis...I haven't been home for quite awhile. 'Home is where there's love.' That was my old man..my father had a little saying for all occasions. He was...honest, and hardworking...and a failure at everything he ever tried."
David: "Failure?"
McGee: "One small time business after another..he was uh..the kind of guy who was an easy touch...give anybody a loan or credit.."
David: "Well, maybe he thought some things are more important than money."
McGee: "The two of you would've got along just fine. Whoever you are, John Doe, its becoming apparent that you are an idealist."

McGee wonders if David was a doctor in his forgotten life, the comment leading to another flash of memory--performing surgery....

McGee's pain causes the man to pass out. Hours later, he rises to see David standing over the rock pile grave of the pilot. David suggests they leave the crash site, as snow is coming; McGee wonders if any rescue party would naturally search for the plane, but the crash brought enough trees down, that it would hide the wreck from aerial searches. Using a map, David plots their course to reach Eden, Arizona...some 48 miles in the distance.

David creates a sled/harness rig from the seat belts and a damaged wing.

That night, McGee recalls his failed attempts at capturing the Hulk--from Wilmington, Delaware (the boxing match from "Final Round") to New York (the Hulk being a "Terror in Times Square").

McGee: "If only there was some way to control it. The Hulk's huge--its not like you're trying to tackle you local mugger, you know...a story like this--I could track that thing down--put me right back on top!"
David: "Tell me more about this Hulk. Do you know what it is?"
McGee: "Heh! If I knew the answer to that, I'd be halfway to home-plate. I've shown photographs of the Hulk to the leading anthropologists in the country, and their conclusions range from 'obvious hoax' to 'freak mutation.' In other words, a big, fat zero."

McGee is almost lost in thought--

McGee: "Well, there was one man--a scientist. He could have told me anything I wanted to know about the creature...but he's dead."
David: "Who was he?"
McGee: "Doctor David Banner."

That name leads to--

David's memory: Walking on the beach / working with Caroline ("Married") / David's first transformation from "The Incredible Hulk" pilot

McGee: "What's the matter--something wrong?"
David: "I think I just remembered something. Sort of like dropping a coin in the soda pop machine, but there's no soda pop. I don't know--maybe telling me about your past will remind me of mine. please...please go on. What happened to doctor Banner? How'd he die?"
McGee: "The Hulk! It was uh...it was shortly after the creature had first been sighted...there was a man and his daughter...they were camping in the woods...the Hulk chased the little girl into the water. The man took a shot at the creature, and almost killed himself."

Clips from the pilot--

David listens carefully, taking in the information, but not sure why it seems familiar...

McGee:
"They found Banner's car in the area, it had been wrecked and burned. The police also found enormous footprints...I managed to get a cast made; Banner and his assistant denied knowing anything about it. You can call it reporter's intuition, or a basically suspicious nature or whatever you want, but I just wasn't convinced that doctor Banner and his assistant were telling the truth. So, I decided to go back at night, and have a look at what they were up to in that lab."
David: "What did you find out?"
McGee: "Enough to convince me that I was right."

Clips: McGee investigating the destroyed lab chamber, and spotting a giant footprint matching the cast he made / Banner and Elaina Marks discussing an alternate facility that would hold the creature, in the event it returned...

David: "...and you think they were talking about this Hulk?"
McGee: "Absolutely! If only I'd been able to hear more..."
David: "What happened?"
McGee: "Banner found me in that closet, and escorted me out of the place...its before it all blew up."

Clips of the lab explosion / David running into the fiery lab / the Hulk emerging carrying Elaina...

McGee: "The building was a mass of flames...Banner ran back inside. I must have been dazed, or something. When I came to, it was the first time i saw it...I'll never forget that moment as long as I live!
They found Elaina Marks in the woods...she was dead."


Such an impactful moment from David's past comes to mind--

David's memory: The Hulk's final moments with Elaina--her hand slipping from his as she died.

McGee notices how David is staring off--as if he absorbed all of McGee's account of that tragic night--

McGee: "John?"
David: "Hmm? I'm alright. I was just...just getting a few flashes. Pieces? Faces from nowhere...The creature..but none of it makes sense."
McGee: "Yeah, I know. It's like me and the Hulk. I'm never gonna know the whole story--it's gone. It's gone like Banner and Elaina Marks...but I...I can find their killer.And I will, too--someday."

David listens intently....thinking of the account and McGee's quest....

The next morning, David pulls McGee on the wing/sled, beginning their 48 mile journey; aerial search places canvas the last known area of the plane, but cannot see any trace of the wreck. By nightfall, David sleeps--and has nightmares involving the seemingly unstoppable Hulk...and Caroline's last minutes--a memory that wakes him, calling her name. McGee asks who Caroline is, but he does not remember. He believes the dream-Hulk wanted to destroy him.

McGee believes there is a stronger connection between John Doe and the hulk--piecing together the following facts--

McGee: "Listen..John, let's take a minute here...and review some of this, okay?"
David: "I don't understand."
McGee: "Well, when you first met me, you thought that you knew me, right?" Okay, that's item one. Item two--the Hulk was in Wilmington."
David: "Yeah, i've been to Wilmington."
McGee: "Item three, they found you at the accident site where the Hulk was spotted. Item four, you;ve just come from Oklahoma City...."
David: "...where the Hulk was last seen."
McGee: "Right!"
David: "But...what does that all add up to?"
McGee:"Heh--I don't know...I don't know. and except..i'm a..kind of a hunter, and the Hulk is what I hunt. Now, its just possible that you're hunting him too, only for a different reason."
David: "Like what??"
McGee: "Could be anything...the Hulk is..rough, he's a killer, he..uh..he could have hurt somebody you know, somebody you loved."

David's Memory: Caroline dying in the Hulk's arms...

McGee:
"...and now, you're out to..."
David: "..to kill him?"
McGee: "Yyeah, well, could be...it's just possible that..."

Their talk is interrupted by the sound of a plane--possibly one of the search group, but it is too far away for the duo to do anything about it. By morning, David continues pulling the McGee sled, but as they reach a ridge, they see a growing forest fire. Though exhausted, David needs to outpace the moving fire..but that demands traveling away from their original destination--Eden. McGee protests, but--

David:
"We can't stop now--we're going to have to head back the other way--we can rest later!"
McGee: "But that's north! That's away from Eden--away from everything that we're after--your--your memory, my story...the Hulk--"

David's reasoning is undeniable--


David:
"...if we get caught in the middle of that, my memory, your story and the Hulk won't make any difference, Jack! It just simply doesn't matter--now come on!!"

To be continued...

NOTES:

The Incredible Hulk
was always strong on character development, and launched this second season with a great example of that. Now, the series took its main antagonist to center stage in analyzing just what makes him tick both personally and professionally. Although McGee still displays a bit of his survivor's guilt in his recollection of the events surrounding the deaths of Banner & Marks, with he--being the only living witness (or so he believes), feeling a need to bring this "killer" to justice, is wiped away by his own true nature.

McGee gives the impression that he lives a loveless, glory-seeking life (explored in greater depth in part 2), and true to his being the polar opposite of Banner--even thinks "John Doe" would get along with his father, since he sees both as "bleeding heart" / "sap" types. On that note, it is telling that even suffering from amnesia, Banner's inherent nature falls hard on the side of right, in noting that there's more to life (and dealing with people after hearing the story of McGee's father) than money.

GUEST CAST:

Don Marshall
(Doctor) was a guest in season one's "The Hulk Breaks Las Vegas," and will return in his third and last TIH guest role in season three's "Deathmask." Aside from his Star Trek role ("The Galileo Seven" - 1967), and being best known as Dan Erickson from Irwin Allen's Land of the Giants (ABC, 1968-70), his other fantasy credits include:
  • The Alfred Hitchcock Hour - "The Cadaver" - 1963 / "Isabel" - 1964 / "Night Fever" - 1965
  • Tarzan - "The Fanatics" - 1967
  • Bewitched - "Sisters at Heart" - 1970
  • The Bionic Woman -"The Vega Influence" - 1976
  • The Hardy Boys / Nancy Drew Mysteries - "The Strange Fate of Flight 608" - 1977
  • Buck Rogers in the 25th Century - "Planet of the Slave Girls" - 1979.

Then, for anyone wanting to hear Marshall's experiences on LOTG, there's the TV documentary, The Fantasy Worlds of Irwin Allen (1995) long available on DVD.

Victoria Carroll's (Rose) fantasy roles date back to 1970--
  • The Immortal - "White Elephants Don't Grow on Trees" - 1970
  • The Lucifer Complex - 1978
  • ..and "Fast Lane" - a 4th season episode of The Incredible Hulk from 1981
A number of voice artist roles--most notable:
  • The Incredible Hulk - (the NBC cartoon) 1982 - 1983
  • Richie Rich - 1982
  • Shirt Tales - 1982
  • The Jetsons (second version) - 1985
  • The 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo - 1985
  • The Smurfs - 1986
  • Batman: The Animated Series - ("The Underdwellers") 1992
  • The Mask - 1996
Aileen Towne (Nurse Phalen) has only one significant fantasy credit outside of TIH--as a regular one of the earliest TV sci-fi series, Commander Cody: Sky Marshall of the Universe (1955).

Skip Riley (Pilot) has a short list of fantasy credits:
  • Circle of Fear - "Graveyard Shift" - 1973
  • The Archer: Fugitive from the Empire - 1981
..and another TIH episode from the third season, "The Slam" - 1979
 
On the road, David (trying to get to San Diego) accepts a ride from bubbly "country girl" type Rose Sanders, who is on her way to Santa Fe, New Mexico. He gets more than he bargained for, as the woman quickly sinks into a stream of teary-eyed complaints about her unfaithful husband (and men in general).

Not to mention contemporary pop culture references (Marie Osmond). Interesting choice to get things rolling with such a humorous tone, though.

Eerily reminiscent of the crash that killed Laura Banner, Rose (like David) is sent flying from the car, while David (similar to Laura) is trapped in the car, its leaked fuel igniting.

Ah, you noticed that too? If one wanted to read into it, one could say that taking things back to that key, driving element of his origin symbolizes rebirth...which might be reaching a bit, if I didn't have this line to support it:

"I feel as if I'd just been born, right here in this room when I woke up."
...
David's legs are pinned under the crushed dashboard, and in the frantic struggle to escape, he transforms into the Hulk

-41:26...establishing this episode as one of those very exceptional format-busters, as it's not only very early, but is also his only true Hulk-Out in this episode. (We will be seeing quite a bit more of the Hulk in this episode, though, because....)

"There is a slightly scorched duffel bag in our property office. it's probably yours."

The Incredible Duffel Bag--the unsung true hero of the show!

"Nope. You're officially listed as 'John Doe.'"

A non-"David B." alias that will stick with him for the rest of the show, used by McGee.

David's memory: Caroline's therapy--the caged Hulk reaching for David from "Married" / The Hulk's first night during the lightning storm from "The Incredible Hulk."

(Ah, the episode starts to show its true nature....)

McGee convinces "John Doe" to charter a plane to see Dr. Brandis in L.A.

It seems pretty odd for the doctor to let David go like that while he's still recovering.

David's memory: David (from "747") at the controls of the airplane just as he's turning into the Hulk / As the Hulk, hanging by his fingers from the cargo hold of the plane

(It's...it's....)

the reporter revealing that even though he was in the Air Force (in Korea)

Between this and the recollection of his dad, we learn a lot about McGee in this episode.

Moments later, the plane's oil line is damaged from a lightning strike; as the pilot struggles with the descending plane, David & McGee brace themselves, just as the plane crashes deep in a forest area, somewhere in Arizona.

Perhaps a bit too contrived, that the story relies on two separate vehicular catastrophes in the same episode....

David: "I think a tibia may be broken...you have a very deep laceration here in the thigh...I don't know--a good possibility of a compound fracture."
McGee: "Ohh beautiful. My Cup Runneth Over."

And there's our Undercover Doctor!

McGee wonders if David was a doctor in his forgotten life, the comment leading to another flash of memory--performing surgery....

Which is odd, because I never got the impression that David was a surgeon. (It's also the only flashback that's not....)

That night, McGee recalls his failed attempts at capturing the Hulk--from Wilmington, Delaware (the boxing match from "Final Round") to New York (the Hulk being a "Terror in Times Square").

(IT'S A CLIP SHOW!!!!!!!)

McGee: "Doctor David Banner."

And McGee joins the unkept list of people who name-drop David to himself.

David's memory: Walking on the beach / working with Caroline ("Married") / David's first transformation from "The Incredible Hulk" pilot

(See what I mean?)

Clips from the pilot--
Clips of the lab explosion

As a new regular viewer of the show who'd missed most of it up to this point, I certainly found this episode helpful in getting up to speed.

McGee believes there is a stronger connection between John Doe and the hulk--piecing together the following facts--

McGee: "Listen..John, let's take a minute here...and review some of this, okay?"
David: "I don't understand."
McGee: "Well, when you first met me, you thought that you knew me, right?" Okay, that's item one. Item two--the Hulk was in Wilmington."
David: "Yeah, i've been to Wilmington."
McGee: "Item three, they found you at the accident site where the Hulk was spotted. Item four, you;ve just come from Oklahoma City...."
David: "...where the Hulk was last seen."
McGee: "Right!"
David: "But...what does that all add up to?"
McGee:"Heh--I don't know...I don't know. and except..i'm a..kind of a hunter, and the Hulk is what I hunt. Now, its just possible that you're hunting him too, only for a different reason."

McGee shows that he knows how to piece things together...yet when he learns what John Doe really is, he never puts the final piece in place and realizes who John Doe really is.

  • John Doe thinks he knows Jack McGee.
  • John Doe displays advanced medical skill.
  • Banner matches the general physical description of John Doe that McGee will frequently recite in the series going forward.
  • Banner's body was never found.
  • Even with the injured larynx excuse, John Doe still sounds very recognizable as Bill Bixby.

To be continued...
And we get another one of those odd first-part Lonely Man freeze frames, showing "John" and Jack having a sort of road movie buddy moment....

Speaking of freeze frames...this episode used them more than once when going to commercial, a technique that I haven't noticed the show using up to this point.

Now, the series took its main antagonist to center stage in analyzing just what makes him tick both personally and professionally.

This two-parter also stands out as the only time in the series that Bixby and Colvin shared so much screen time together.

Clip shows get a very bad rap...but this two-parter serves as an example of how to put one to extremely good use!

But though "Mystery Man" proves to be an exceptional, memorable, and premise-altering series installment, David is still...Just Schlepping Around.

Tune in next week, when we find out if two Hulk-Outs proves to be a cure-all even in a format-busting two-parter like this one!
 
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My memory of "Mystery Man" focuses on its key role in the David/McGee relationship, so I tend to forget how much of a clip show it is, at least in the first part. Not just clips from past episodes, but a ton of stock footage of weather forecasting stuff and airplanes and the like. They really had to pad this out to get to two hours. But there's precedent for that; a large part of the reason Star Trek did "The Menagerie" as a 2-parter built around the unaired pilot was because it let them shoot two episodes in the time it normally took to do one, thus making up for production delays as well as saving money.

I realized something about the opening shot. We saw Rose's car driving recklessly toward and past David and the camera, and then the camera stayed with David as he ran up to the car, and then we saw Rose inside the car, all in one continuous shot. But the car was off-camera for a fair amount of that shot, and I'd assume Victoria Carroll wasn't a stunt driver. So most likely the shot composition let them quickly swap out the stunt driver for Carroll while Bixby was running toward the car. Heck, maybe they even had Carroll's car already parked there while the stunt car just drove on past it, which would be a more reliable way to ensure the car was on the correct mark. Interesting bit of stagecraft there. Director Frank Orsatti putting his experience with stunt work and actor doubling to good use.

I have some issues with the setup. For instance, wouldn't the medical staff that treated "John Doe" have taken photos of his burned face so they could have a record of the original injuries as a benchmark for assessing his healing process? Or just for their hospital records, his file and such? So shouldn't it have been possible for McGee to see the photos and find out he was Doctor David Banner, Physician/Scientist?


It seems pretty odd for the doctor to let David go like that while he's still recovering.

Maybe it's because his burns were stabilized and getting prompt treatment for his amnesia was more important. After all, if the memory loss was due to traumatic brain injury, then rapid treatment was probably essential, since the cognitive effects could be symptomatic of a deeper physical problem with the brain.

Perhaps a bit too contrived, that the story relies on two separate vehicular catastrophes in the same episode....

Yeah, David's luck with vehicles is lousy this week.


Speaking of freeze frames...this episode used them more than once when going to commercial, a technique that I haven't noticed the show using up to this point.

Also in some of the clips, like the dissolve from the Wilmington Hulk sequence to the New York City sequence.


This two-parter also stands out as the only time in the series that Bixby and Colvin shared so much screen time together.

Yeah, which is why it's such an important and effective episode despite the very contrived setup. It was their best chance to really play off each other and establish a rapport. I can only think of one later episode where they have a scene together, and it's fairly brief.
 
Ah, you noticed that too? If one wanted to read into it, one could say that taking things back to that key, driving element of his origin symbolizes rebirth...which might be reaching a bit, if I didn't have this line to support it:

I think you've nailed it. I do not think its coincidence that spark of the Hulk saga--the accident with Laura--is replayed in the episode where David is forced (through amnesia) to make another "start" in his life.


The Incredible Duffel Bag--the unsung true hero of the show!

..that, and Banner's series of tan jackets...


A non-"David B." alias that will stick with him for the rest of the show, used by McGee.

Yes--another game changer in that the big key McGee learns (that a man transforms) will be spread to anyone else (including National Register staff) from this point forward.

Perhaps a bit too contrived, that the story relies on two separate vehicular catastrophes in the same episode....

I'm betting there's some stat somewhere listing the number of victims of individual vehicle crashes on the same day.


Which is odd, because I never got the impression that David was a surgeon. (It's also the only flashback that's not....)

In the 26 episodes aired before this, David's medical knowledge had been expanded far beyond anything suggested by his position and/or research in the pilot, but aside from the general description in the main title narration, we do not hear many specifics on his medical background.


As a new regular viewer of the show who'd missed most of it up to this point, I certainly found this episode helpful in getting up to speed.

Yes, but above all else for someone starting here, the story successfully builds a great deal of sympathy for David, even without taking all of those dramatic trips with the character over the past 26 episodes.

McGee shows that he knows how to piece things together...yet when he learns what John Doe really is, he never puts the final piece in place and realizes who John Doe really is.

  • John Doe thinks he knows Jack McGee.
  • John Doe displays advanced medical skill.
  • Banner matches the general physical description of John Doe that McGee will frequently recite in the series going forward.
  • Banner's body was never found.
  • Even with the injured larynx excuse, John Doe still sounds very recognizable as Bill Bixby.
He will not put two and two together since his mind:

  • As a witness--he's hard-wired to believe Banner was burned to ash.
  • Further, he also believes there's no way a normal man could become the Hulk. That is why the script was clever in adding McGee taking the matter to leading anthropologists, concluding hoax or freak mutation--supporting the belief that the Hulk is anything other than a creature born from a normal man.
  • That is enough expert (anthropologists) and eyewitness (McGee) evidence to convince Jack that "John Doe" is anything other than someone with a connection to the Hulk's origins. The very reason he suggested "John Doe" might be someone hunting the Hulk out of revenge for hurting someone close to him.
Seeing--as the expression goes--is believing, and until McGee sees the transformation, all other evidence separates the Hulk and Banner from "John Doe," or anyone else.

This two-parter also stands out as the only time in the series that Bixby and Colvin shared so much screen time together.

That's true. Even in the pilot they do not share this much time together.

Clip shows get a very bad rap...but this two-parter serves as an example of how to put one to extremely good use!

That's because its not the traditional a clip show...like the horrible "Shades of Gray" from Star Trek: The Next Generation, where no true story was the motivator for the use of clips--TNG was just a trip down memory lane for a completely pointless episode. "Mystery Man" uses clips only to support a very important turn in the relationship between hero and villain--the "why" of the villain



I have some issues with the setup. For instance, wouldn't the medical staff that treated "John Doe" have taken photos of his burned face so they could have a record of the original injuries as a benchmark for assessing his healing process? Or just for their hospital records, his file and such? So shouldn't it have been possible for McGee to see the photos and find out he was Doctor David Banner, Physician/Scientist?

But McGee would not ask to see those photos. At the time he visited the hospital, McGee believes "John Doe" was involved only as some kind of witness--no suspicion or red flags. Even after the doctor produces a Hulk clipping from the duffel bag, he's still under the impression (later in the episode) that at best, "John Doe" might be someone seeking to find the Hulk because the creature hurt someone in his life. But back to the hospital period, McGee would not necessarily need to see the man's face; it was more important to have his memory restored, which is where Jack believed all answers rest.
 
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