William Shatner Apologizes For Star Trek V

[Marsden]

Why couldn't they have just inserted a 30 to 45 second scene of the coordinates Sybok aimed the ship at were the end of a "stargate/wormhole" to go through the barrier? That would solve at least 2 complaints.

I would also have liked another small scene, or even better a log entry towards the end, where they found that the barrier was there to contain the monster.

 

[locutus101]

Why couldn't they have just inserted a 30 to 45 second scene of the coordinates Sybok aimed the ship at were the end of a "stargate/wormhole" to go through the barrier? That would solve at least 2 complaints.

I would also have liked another small scene, or even better a log entry towards the end, where they found that the barrier was there to contain the monster.

I don't think that those are the reasons people think it is crap.

 

[ConRefit79]

We're told Star Trek 2009 is great and ignore the fact that a Super Nova now some how travels faster than light. Or we can get from Earth to Vulcan now in 6 minutes. Or less than that to Quo'nos in ID.

In TUC a moon explodes and some how it creates a shockwave felt light years away shortly after the explosion. But a planet explodes in TWOK and no one notices. Or in TWOK they can make planets and possibly a star out of gas and dust in 6 minutes and they quickly fall apart in TSFS.

So why can't one suspend belief in TFF that they travel to the Great Barrier at the center of the Galaxy? Whose to say how far out this barrier extends? There are only a few big areas where TFF fails. Poor Special Effects, shoe horned humor and some mischaracterization of the characters. Other than that, it is like a 2 part episode on the big that was made screen 27 years ago.

 

[Elder Knight]

I remember an interview with Nimoy, in which he describes Shatner's technique when the end of the workday drew near: direct faster! (He then mimicked the director setting up the scene and giving the orders in double time.)
Now, he must have known that the budget wouldn't sustain overtime, but it doesn't seem to me to be a good approach to the problem.

 

[Spock's Barber]

Gawd, if the studio can spend the money to remaster TOS, why can't they fix the cartoon-like special effects in ST:TFF?

 

[urbandefault]

Gawd, if the studio can spend the money to remaster TOS, why can't they fix the cartoon-like special effects in ST:TFF?

I'd rather they fixed the cartoon-like SFX in TOS-R.

There's no reason to apologize for TFF. Has anyone ever apologized for Nemesis?

 

[Philip Guyott]

I'd rather they fixed the cartoon-like SFX in TOS-R.

There's no reason to apologize for TFF. Has anyone ever apologized for Nemesis?

Well J.J. Abrams apologized for all the lens flare in Star Trek 2009
http://www.avclub.com/article/jj-abrams-apologizes-for-all-the-lens-flare-that-l-103639

 

[Spock's Barber]

I'd rather they fixed the cartoon-like SFX in TOS-R.

It's like they morphed TOS with TAS. Ugh!

 

[2takesfrakes]

Shatner probably did want to put Spock through the wringer, for dramatic-story and/or personal resentment reasons, and yet Sybok is relatively sympathetic and reasonable, I'm not sure if that was from the writing or direction or if Shatner later regretted that.

Of one thing I'm sure, Shatner was suitably impressed with Laurence Luckinbill and his performance. If it was Shatner who wanted Sybok to appear sympathetic, it was likely in response to this casting choice. But I suspect that Harve Bennett probably had more to do with that. Harve did much to rope in Shatner's vision, to make it more palatable. I don't know that Sybok was ever reasonable, in his characterisation. His mission was absurd. His acquisition of followers was equally so. His execution of this Fool's Errand was absurd, as well.

He did brush on reasonability when he finally achieved some small measure of objectivity when "God" eventually mocked and threatened him. But by then, it almost didn't matter. He distracted "God" just long enough for Kirk to order a torpedo launched on the site, but that's about the extent of it. Sybok was a one-note whackadoo. Finding God & Secret Pain was the totality of his existence ... hell ... I can't even imagine him in any other situation that didn't involve that stuff, as he had no dimension to him.

 

[Tosk]

William Shatner did not write the goddamn movie.

He co-wrote the goddamn movie.

 

[Ovation]

This thread inspired me to rewatch the movie. And you know what?

I like the "goddamn movie". Warts and all.

And I don't care who knows it.

That is all.

 

[OpenMaw]

He co-wrote the goddamn movie.

It was his idea, his pitch. Gene Roddenberry himself said "BAD IDEA BRO!"

In certain respects it does remind me of the original series more than some of the other movies do. Probably as close to TOS as Wrath of Khan ever got... But the blatant stupidity and obvious ego-stroking don't help.

 

[Khan 2.0]

Shats needed those 'magic' letters attached to TFF - I L M

 

[locutus101]

He co-wrote the goddamn movie.

You're goddamn right.

 

[2takesfrakes]

Shatner's style's all up in it. Has he directed a major event motion picture, since STAR TREK 5 - iether with, or without, humble apologies afterward?

 

[locutus101]

Shatner's style's all up in it. Has he directed a major event motion picture, since STAR TREK 5 - iether with, or without, humble apologies afterward?

Shatner only apologizes when he can put the blame on someone else.

 

[2takesfrakes]

Which is more than we ever got from George Lucas, who only blamed audiences for his prequels having poor reviews. We got NO apology! When viewed upon in that fashion, Shatner's apology does seem genuine ... and heartfelt.

 

[urbandefault]

To expect an apology from a director because you didn't like his movie is not logical.

 

[Timby]

He co-wrote the goddamn movie.

He has a story credit. David Loughery wrote the goddamn movie.

 

[locutus101]

To expect an apology from a director because you didn't like his movie is not logical.

The entertainment world rarely is.