I'm not thrilled about a musical either but I'm willing to see how it goes. The one for The X-Files with Burt Reynolds and some musical elements is one of my favorite episodes of television.
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Au contrair - superheroes and supervillians absolutely work well in musicals!
See Exhibit A:
Besides, what's a weirder setting for a musical episode than a dark and broody vampire show?
A musical set in a fairly serious superhero show that has no justification for a musical outside of some idiot thinking that Glee was awesome, and so they should copy it?
That said, thank you for reminding me that even Joss Whedon only had one good musical in him, and that his second attempt is probably the only thing Nathon Fillion has been in that couldn't even be made watchable by Fillion (I think I got about 10 seconds into the first song when I tried to watch that and quickly shut it off).
Here, have another. (Sadly no video of just this one.)
I'm pretty sure this isn't a ratings stunt to attract the Glee crowd, I don't think there is a Glee crowd anymore.
The Glee crowd is a tiny sliver of the Voice/ American idol/X-Factor crowd.
The only thing that disappoints me about the musical is the statement that it'll be mostly using pre-existing songs. I prefer musical episodes that feature original songs that work with the plot and characters -- "Once More With Feeling," "The Bitter Suite," "Mayhem of the Music Meister," things like that. Xena followed up "The Bitter Suite" with a comedy musical built around licensed pop songs, and it was lame by contrast.
Hmm... I wonder if they could license one or two songs from the musical It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's Superman, with a few tweaks of the lyrics. And I'd still love to see them use NPH as the Music Meister and license his theme song from "Mayhem," since that was my favorite song in the episode. I'm sure that won't happen, but it'd be cool.
Or they could do a musical duel -- have the villain (Barrowman?) sing "We Don't Need Another Hero" from Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome, and have Calista Flockhart counter with "Holding Out For a Hero" from Footloose.
Hmm... I wonder if they could license one or two songs from the musical It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's Superman, with a few tweaks of the lyrics. And I'd still love to see them use NPH as the Music Meister and license his theme song from "Mayhem," since that was my favorite song in the episode. I'm sure that won't happen, but it'd be cool.
Or they could do a musical duel -- have the villain (Barrowman?) sing "We Don't Need Another Hero" from Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome, and have Calista Flockhart counter with "Holding Out For a Hero" from Footloose.
The way I see it, this is a legitimate break from the norM, Like DS9's Tribble episode.
The Glee crowd downloaded a number of songs from the show, and we're probably a larger sliver than Guy gives them credit for on Idol.
As for Christopher's thought on original songs... I get it, bit realistically, they have little time to prepare...and even if many actors are singers, can the production staff write music, and can the actors learn NEW songs in that short a time (as opposed to one they are familiar with)?
If they get a lot of downloads, expect it to be yearly.
The Glee crowd downloaded a number of songs from the show, and we're probably a larger sliver than Guy gives them credit for on Idol.
As for Christopher's thought on original songs... I get it, bit realistically, they have little time to prepare...and even if many actors are singers, can the production staff write music, and can the actors learn NEW songs in that short a time (as opposed to one they are familiar with)?
If they get a lot of downloads, expect it to be yearly.
^ Hadn't thought of that, that it could be a potential revenue stream. I'm not sure if it would garner enough to be a significant dent but you never know. It also could potentially lure curious viewers via viral Youtube clips if popular.
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Couldn't find another female counterpart other than this...
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Maggie_Mxyzptlk_(New_Earth)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Mxyzptlk#cite_note-23
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Mxyzptlk#cite_note-23
Couldn't find another female counterpart other than this...
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Maggie_Mxyzptlk_(New_Earth)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Mxyzptlk#cite_note-23
First off, the show's staffers would only need to write lyrics at most, with the composer providing the music. If they don't feel capable of doing that themselves, they can just hire a freelancer to write the songs for them. For instance, the makers of Xena: "The Bitter Suite" hired lyricists Pamela Phillips Oland and Dennis Spiegel to write the lyrics for its songs, with regular composer Joseph LoDuca handling the music. The makers of a television show can hire whatever outside consultants or specialists they need to help out with the special needs of any given episode -- budget permitting, of course, but naturally they'd splurge a bit on the big crossover events. Indeed, film and TV composers often bring in uncredited help from other composers or performers to assist with lyrics, specialized instruments, ethnic musical styles, and the like. For instance, for the Hong Kong-set Agents of SHIELD episode "The Girl in the Flower Dress," Bear McCreary brought in Avatar: The Last Airbender/The Legend of Korra composer Jeremy Zuckerman to play a Chinese zither for him (and here's his blog post about it).
Second, it would be no harder for the actors to learn new songs than it would be for them to learn their scripts every week. And they're announcing now that there will be a musical crossover in the back half of the season, which would mean sometime in the first half of 2017 -- at a guess, probably during February sweeps. So they've got plenty of time to prepare.
You keep talking about Glee, but you're completely ignoring the fact that they also have Jesse L. Martin who was one original members of the cast of Rent, and Victor Garber, who has almost 40 years of musical experience. I'm pretty sure this isn't about "the Glee crowd" and is simply about taking advantage of the fact that they have incredibly talented cast with over half a century of collective musical experience.
Is a musical really that much more ridiculous than a humanoid shark, a telepathic Gorilla, or alternate universes?
As you can probably tell, I love musical, and I can't wait to see these episodes.
And sometimes the producers just want to take advantage of that talent. A week or so back they made use of Hannah John-Kamen's singing ability on Killjoys. Perhaps they could have gone a different route with the plot line but they had the talent and it suite the storyline so they went for it.
Which I found surprisingly disappointing. I'd expected her singing voice to be as lovely and mellifluous as her speaking voice, but I found it kind of weak and reedy.
Yea, and if they had a cast that, I don't know, liked to hunt would they have an episode where they kill and skin a deer? So, basically, Flash viewers are being punished because the person in charge of casting for Flash/Arrow likes musicals way too much. I think I'm starting to hate Barry, Dr. Stein and Joe West now. I'm not going to be able to enjoy the characters knowing their actors lead to the ruining of Flash. I swear, the casting people for this show are complete idiots, and probably should have been told that they were casting for a superhero tv series, not a musical.
Not Arrow -- Flash!!! Vibe started off as a breakdancer in the 80's! Hmm "Din daa daa" might make an interesting soundtrack song
So it was a danced off that doomed Laurel Lance!!!
Except hunting has nothing whatsoever to do with acting, musicals have been a big part of acting for ages.
I doubt very much that they cast for singing talent, but that doesn't mean they can't take advantage of the cast they ended up with.
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The Arrowverse is attracting some big talent these days.
I don't buy it. I saw the Whedon rumor on a site that also reported as fact that Neil Patrick Harris would be the Music Meister. I think somebody out there is just hearing what the fans are fantasizing about wanting to see, mistaking it for actual news, and reporting it as such. Generally, whenever you hear a rumor that's identical to what the fans have been speculating and fantasizing about already, it can probably be disregarded.
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