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Who is going to win this election in November?

Who will win the general presidential election?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 37 22.7%
  • Hillary Clinton

    Votes: 126 77.3%

  • Total voters
    163
  • Poll closed .
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Apparently, the Republican leadership is preparing for Trump to quit the race. :rommie: I'm not sure how true that is, but in a way I wouldn't be surprised. I always had the feeling that this was a gag on his part that got out of hand and that he has no interest in sitting in the White House for four years. It's too much like actual work.
 
Apparently, the Republican leadership is preparing for Trump to quit the race. :rommie: I'm not sure how true that is, but in a way I wouldn't be surprised. I always had the feeling that this was a gag on his part that got out of hand and that he has no interest in sitting in the White House for four years. It's too much like actual work.
He won't quit the race. That's just the media trying to dramatize stuff. I'm absolutely sure that the Republicans are worried about him, but the media was saying similar things about Sarah Palin in 2008 and she didn't quit, nor did McCain replace her. NOW we know how chaotic it was behind the scenes with Palin and the McCain team, but they held her up. And they'll hold Trump up.

Behind the scenes, there are people that are probably imploring him to shut the hell up with the reactionary statements. When it gets closer to the debates, they will try their hardest to get him to shift to softer rhetoric. Whether he actually DOES is another issue. Short of him actually firing off a tweet that advocates Hillary's hanging as a traitor or whatever (advisors on his periphery have done this, and his supporters have, but he has not, so far. He just sticks with "Crooked Hillary") or saying something truly reprehensible where he's caught on tape, Trump will remain their nominee. They will just have to go into damage control overdrive. The spin doctors will earn their money with this guy.

He also won't drop out because of his ego. Trump isn't a "loser." But if he loses, he already has a built-in excuse that everything was rigged...the system is rigged, the Republicans were against him, the votes were rigged...so he'll emerge with his ego intact and his followers will have a conspiracy to feed on.
 
I like Hilary and the Democrats but still think Trump might win. Don't ask me why I just do.
He might, sure. But it will take an implosion on Hillary's part, or a terrorist attack close to election day. That might make people vote for Trump out of fear. If everything goes smoothly, he just doesn't have the votes to win.

I've played around with a few Electoral maps, and even with me giving Trump the benefit of the doubt in several states he's not likely to win, Hillary still wins with 280 electoral votes. Worst-case (the way I see it), she still wins with 276. Right now, she's tracking to go north of 320.

If everything goes perfectly for Trump, he could win with 272. But that means he'd win Ohio AND Florida AND Virginia AND North Carolina AND Iowa...not likely.
 
Don't underestimate the power of the electorate if they want to royally screw things up for TPTB -- look at what happened in the UK with Brexit.
There's a few differences. First, Brexit was a simple majority vote. The US Presidential election is won by amassing 270 electoral votes. Second, Trump just doesn't have the coalition of voters needed to make it close, like Brexit was always was. He can lose entire states (like Ohio and Virginia), and valuable electoral votes, simply because his numbers with minorities are shit. And women. And like I said above, he's behind Romney's 2012 numbers even among those who support him.

His path to victory is narrow. A lot has to change for him to tighten this up before November. Hillary needs to have horrible debates for him to even get close going into election day.
 
So could someone choose to vote for Bernnie Sanders even though he's lost the DNC nomination process?
Sure, just write in the choice.

US elections are a winner take all system, basically, so unless Bernie got the votes to win the electoral race it won't matter.Also, keep in mind that the plurality of votes in a national election is on a state by state basis...

I didn't know about being able to write one's own nominees (for want of a better phrase) into US elections. I guess that explains why people endorsing each other is so important.

Our system in the UK is "first past the post" and amounts to the same thing (in the sense that Parliamentary and Electoral College seats and Prime Minister/President could be taken as analogous with each other). In last year's election UK won 12.6% of the vote but only won a single seat, while the Lib Dems only got 7.9% of the vote but eight seats).

dJE
 
What I want to know is out of 300 million citizens you always pick just shit candidates?

They're the only ones we know about. Seriously, name recognition is a huge advantage early on and can be used to develop other advantages including funding.
 
They're the only ones we know about. Seriously, name recognition is a huge advantage early on and can be used to develop other advantages including funding.

Well as a impartial outside observer I have to say as much as my government sucks, im glad i dont have yours! Lol
 
Is Trump trying to lose? Is the fix in? The last few elections have had me wondering about collusion. Was Palin a deliberately awful pick for VP? Did Romney deliberately tank his campaign by doing a horrible job? Do the Democratic and Republican parties get along much better behind the scenes than they want the public think they do?
 
Trump is a dilettante. He's doing this to distract himself from his boring billionaire's life. He needs excitement. Maybe once he's elected he'll oppress the lower classes just to see if they'll revolt...
 
He's both a dilettante and a narcissist. I think this whole thing is an ego trip for him. I wondered at first, as JeffinOakland does, whether Trump was deliberately trying to lose, but by now I don't think so. There's too much evidence that his behavior in this election is consistent with what he's been like for decades.
 
Is Trump trying to lose? Is the fix in? The last few elections have had me wondering about collusion. Was Palin a deliberately awful pick for VP? Did Romney deliberately tank his campaign by doing a horrible job? Do the Democratic and Republican parties get along much better behind the scenes than they want the public think they do?
Just another conspiracy theory.
 
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