Ever there you are comparing publicity stills released by the production by a professional photographer (which will have been touched up) to showcase production against some phones taken by 'a dude' on a camera phone from a distance.
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Ever there you are comparing publicity stills released by the production by a professional photographer (which will have been touched up) to showcase production against some phones taken by 'a dude' on a camera phone from a distance.
You have to show that it's the same people doing both before that is a valid complaint. I for one never made fun of Supes' trunks and will always whine when they are missing.
True--it's such a divisive issue that DC is damned whichever way they choose to go on it. Is there anybody out there in the group that accepts both with and without trunks as long as the costume looks cool?
Me.
But I really don't like this New 52-ish suit, so far anyway. Maybe it will look better on film.
I don't like the rubber so much.
Superman doesn't need armour.
Silk is fine.
Were the earlier lads wearing silk, or some kind of lycra?
They looked better.
Superman doesn't need armour.
Silk is fine.
Were the earlier lads wearing silk, or some kind of lycra?
They looked better.
That is reaching. Behind the scenes photos are exactly that. It gets to a point where one cannot keep finding excuses to protect the SG/Superman costume. What happens when the episode is aired, and its compared to the final filmed MoS/Dawn costumes?
If people are comparing the Gadot Wonder Woman costume to one designed for Carter over 40 years ago (and they have compared the quality of the two), then certainly, two costumes made in the same era can be compared.
Me. I'm actually more bothered by the costume changes from Into Darkness to Beyond than I've been with trunks/no trunks Superman.
I don't find them that similar. Miller's Barry seems snarkier, a bit more Cisco-ish. Or maybe more Wally-ish, to go by the comics.
Quicksilver has lightning?
I just don't think the costume looks complete without the trunks. Superman's costume is an iconic design, effectively unaltered for seven decades. I don't think it looks silly and needs fixing, I think it looks like Superman, and that's enough. I don't see a reason to change it. It's an overreaction to the silly "underwear on the outside" jokes, which were either not meant seriously to begin with or were too ignorant to be worth paying attention to, because there's a clear difference between trunks and underwear. I mean, if any part of the costume is silly, surely the cape would take the prize. But comedians started making the underwear joke because it was an easy target, and as is so often the case, once the joke became a meme, people forgot that it wasn't intended seriously.
I also don't think any of the recent overcomplicated, armor-like versions look cool. Again, I think the classic design looks cool because it looks like Superman. So the idea that looking like Superman is something that needs to be apologized for and corrected is intrinsically saying that Superman isn't already cool, and that works against making him cool. Besides, this is supposed to be something Clark wears under his street clothes. It should be basically a leotard.
Gal Gadot is ripping off Xena. That's fine, because what Lynda wore was silly. Gadot has a good costume which mostly says that she is really "into" 2000 years ago.
Clark's costume on MOS and Supergirl says that he is an Alien from a world that is more futuristic than any future we can imagine for Earth... You know except that in reality his costume looks like her costume, even though his costume is now retroactively first.
Win made Supergirl's costume from resources found on a craft website.
Logically, Supergirl and Superman's uniforms should seem to be made from completely different materials, even if the colour scheme is superficially different, and wouldn't the fortress be able to make Kara a Supersuit that does not catch fire as she breaks mach 10?
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You seem to have a real hard time understanding the difference between a TV show budget, especially now one on a secondary network, and a movie budget. A TV show budget which *might* be a million dollars or so vs. a movie with a $200m budget. Guess what, the CGI isn't going to perfect and neither are the costumes.
Exactly, there is absolutely no way the SG costume was going to be the same quality as the DCEU one, to expect it to be is just ridiculous. That would be like being mad because a outfit someone grabbed off the rack at Target isn't as nice as one a top designer made for a movie star at the Oscars.
I question "quality." Sure, the movie costumes are fancy and complicated and expensive and hyperdetailed, but actually better? I don't think so. I think Supergirl's costume is a far superior design to that Gigeresque rubber suit Cavill's wearing. It actually works as an item of clothing rather than a full-body prosthetic appliance, which is probably why Melissa Benoist is so content to spend the majority of each episode wearing it. And while the TV Flash costume looks a little heavy for a super-runner, it does look more functional and less overthought than that RoboCop-lite body armor the movie Flash has on.
Honestly, it's occurred to me to wonder if Hoechlin's Superman costume is so overcomplicated as a deliberate lampooning of the current movie/comics trend in Superman attire. This show has gotten in what seemed to be some subtle digs at the Snyder movies before, like in the Supergirl-Astra fight that mimicked a bit of Man of Steel's climax but pointedly had Supergirl rescue civilians from falling debris -- or the joyful, camaraderie-filled Supergirl-Flash crossover coming out at around the same time that Batman and Superman were broodingly and violently "V"-ing each other on the big screen. So maybe Kara will take a look at cousin Clark in costume and go, "What are you wearing?" Maybe it's actually meant to look weird and overcomplicated in comparison to Supergirl's far more stylish attire.
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To my way of thinking, it really doesn't matter how the TV costume compares to the movie costume. All that matters is that works for the show and it looks like it belongs in the same universe as Supergirl's outfit. One can nitpick the details all one wants, but on that account, it does the job just fine.
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I think the Supergirl costume does really look good, especially for a TV show. It looks practical, functional and comfortable. I'm not entirely sold on the Superman costume, like I joked earlier the boots look oversized and I'm not a fan of how the cape is clasped to his shoulders; and then there's the set photo where the guy has a butt that'd make Jennifer Lopez jealous. But overall it looks fine beyond nitpicking. I might actually like it better than the current DCEU one.
And looking it up, in the first season an episode of Supergirl is estimated to have cost around $3m, the pilot cost around $14m. They've switched to the CW which is going to have tighter budget restrictions hence the move of filming to Vancouver so, yeah, the episodes might now be a mil, mil-and a half. Per episode, maybe $2m being very generous.
And looking it up, in the first season an episode of Supergirl is estimated to have cost around $3m, the pilot cost around $14m. They've switched to the CW which is going to have tighter budget restrictions hence the move of filming to Vancouver so, yeah, the episodes might now be a mil, mil-and a half. Per episode, maybe $2m being very generous.
Nonsense, Trekker. Some have a major misunderstanding that a "TV budget" automatically means inferior. Example:
- The current Daredevil (and other Marvel TV) series do not look "cheap" compared to the MCU counterparts, and yes, the TV budgets are nowhere near that of the average MCU film, but notice how no one makes excuses for them. Perhaps that's because the Netflix Marvel series / characters are of a quality that could easily blend in with the MCU.
I don't really see where it's any worse than any of the other TV superhero costumes on any of the Marvel or DC shows. I really don't think that much worse than the DCEU costumes either, it's just a different design style, that's all. It might not be quite as fancy, but that's to be expected.
And some have a major misunderstanding that things look the same in candid behind-the-scenes photos as they look in carefully lit, processed, and color-corrected films and episodes. People who are actively looking for excuses to be negative about something they haven't seen yet will always be able to find them.
.... You're comparing Daredevil to Supergirl. You realzie Daredevil has pretty much no special effects in it and is all fighting and practical effects compared to Supergirl having to do optical and digital effects in every episode, right?
Regardless, TV show budgets are fractions of what movie budgets are and corners are cut for other areas. Could Supergirl have better effects and better costumes? Maybe. But it'd come at the cost of something else, fewer extras to give a scene life, less location shooting or more location shooting at night when it's cheaper, something has to give.
If you want great special effects and costumes maybe superhero TV viewing isn't for you?
Regardless, TV show budgets are fractions of what movie budgets are and corners are cut for other areas. Could Supergirl have better effects and better costumes? Maybe. But it'd come at the cost of something else, fewer extras to give a scene life, less location shooting or more location shooting at night when it's cheaper, something has to give.
If you want great special effects and costumes maybe superhero TV viewing isn't for you?
It's clear that the Berlantiverse isn't for him, but rather than simply watch stuff he DOES enjoy he has to stink up the place for those of us who like it.
but he does need clothing that stays on while he goes doing super things otherswise he'd be the Flash(er)
