Spoilers Spoiler-ish Q&A - Star Trek Beyond
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At the preview screenings there were credits during the opening scenes (actor names, production companies etc.) - they're gone from the final version of the film. They've also added the full stylised "Star Trek Beyond" logo at into the end credits and changed some of the fonts and the wordings. Some of the scenes in the final film have also been tightened up in comparison to the preview print.
so there's no like little intro card like in the first two that separated the prologue from the main story?
That sounds right. My apologies.
The logo didn't appear until the end, and the credits font seems very TNG like, and not the 3D text style from the first two movies.
Not really a spoilerish question but is it me or does Pine look like Collins with that new do?
Hopefully Pine turns out less creepy though.
JJTrek is not, or has ever been, 'dumbed down'. Unless you're the type of person that loves to be preached to as if you're in church.
Both of the previous movies were about something, Into Darkness in particular (drone strikes, terrorism, using terrorism as an excuse to start a war, blowback from trying to stop terrorism, a covert mission into enemy territory)-that's enough social commentary to choke a horse.
Don't get personal. You know better than to do that.Unless you're the type of person that loves to be preached to as if you're in church.
What are you talking about? It has never been canonically established where Sulu's family originates from. Only that Sulu himself was born in San Francisco.
AndyPandy, many thanks for this thread. This is actually the ONLY "spoiler-ish" thread/post about ST:B that I'm following, and that's because you've taken good care to hide spoilers and also your answers are cryptic enough for me to swim right over them if I feel finicky.
That said, I do have a non-spoilery question. Upon reading your personal list of your favorite Trek movies, I realized that not only do I agree with your assessments of each, my list isn't too different, except for the fact that I rank TWOK far above the rest (and your new list might just be this one, 2009, then TWOK. Am I right? Based on that info about my personal list (TWOK, TUC, TSFS, TVH, TMP, FC, ST09, GEN, TFF, STID, NEM, and INS), how would you rate this one against TWOK and/or STUC etc, and why? Just a few (perhaps spoiler-ish) hints to point me a certain way would be very helpful. Thanks again.
That said, I do have a non-spoilery question. Upon reading your personal list of your favorite Trek movies, I realized that not only do I agree with your assessments of each, my list isn't too different, except for the fact that I rank TWOK far above the rest (and your new list might just be this one, 2009, then TWOK. Am I right? Based on that info about my personal list (TWOK, TUC, TSFS, TVH, TMP, FC, ST09, GEN, TFF, STID, NEM, and INS), how would you rate this one against TWOK and/or STUC etc, and why? Just a few (perhaps spoiler-ish) hints to point me a certain way would be very helpful. Thanks again.
You need to read back a few from @The Wormhole's post. Starting about here, say - to get the proper context.
I think Beyond is a different experience to The Wrath of Khan. I enjoy both for different reasons, but I've given the edge to Beyond purely based on my own personal tastes for this kind of film. You may exit the screening in the coming days to find that Wrath of Khan is still your favourite, but it won't be because it's an objectively better or worse film than Beyond.
Thanks so much! I've been reading non-spoiled reviews... and am beginning to believe that, despite the Lin-flavored effects and action, Pegg et al were able to make this one about the emotions, interactions, and the poignancy that was so much a part and parcel of the TOS cast. Am I right? If that's true, I'll be fine with there being no huge social messaging. This cast is still very new and young-ish. And they don't have the luxury of continual exposure to each other via a TV series like the TOS/TNG cast did. So, they need an immediate shot where their growing chemistry gets first priority. So, if Beyond has this, I'm good. I'll be seeing it tomorrow. Thanks again...
You're right - it's incredibly faithful to TOS in a good way.
Now that I have seen the movie I just want to say all the hand-wringing earlier in the thread that this thread in fact ruined the movie was completely unnecessary. Nothing of any significance was given away, and my experience was not ruined at all by knowing what I did. If anything, this thread fueled my enthusiasm and excitement for the movie, and enhanced my appreciation of it.
Thank-you AndyPandy, this was a good thread. I can only hope the next movie has a similar thread.
Thank-you AndyPandy, this was a good thread. I can only hope the next movie has a similar thread.
That sounds a bit unfair to me...Lin was as much a part of the creative process as Pegg and Jung, if not more.
Uhh, please don't make a mountain out of a molehill. I'm not taking anything away from anyone. I know Pegg's work, so I gave him credit where I felt appropriate. As far as I know about Lin's previous work, he doesn't deal with deeper emotional interactions
.... but if you can point me thataway, go right ahead. I'm open to education.
ITA. This was a great thread.
When did I do that? By saying that Lin has as much creative control as the writers do?
Forget I said anything then.
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