HUGE Mr Sulu Spoiler

[{ Emilia }]

{ Emilia }, you and I are both aware that you are attempting to bait me, and I'm not taking it.

If you want to argue about it, let's take it to PM. I won't do it here.

I am trying to have a civil conversation without dismissive remarks. So I would appreciate if you could stop accusing me of trying to troll you. (Doing that is, in fact, seen as trolling on this forum.)

I am also genuinely interested in why you (sarcastically I assume) said you are aware of how much I respect your opinions when it comes to nuTrek.

I have been very critical of nuTrek myself (I strongly dislike Trek09). So even though I have not followed your own comments on nuTrek it sounds like we would be pretty much in agreement when it comes to nuTrek.

Which is why your comment baffled me.

 

[JeffinOakland]

She basically said Takei needs to get a life then goes on to be incredibly aggressively defensive about criticism she's received.

 

[jotap]

I m new here...but moderation is funny here someone talks about gel and it is humor...a person says to re read and it is a serious offense hehe...glup
My english is even worse than i thought it was...

 

[Nerys Myk]

She basically said Takei needs to get a life then goes on to be incredibly aggressively defensive about criticism she's received.

Who are we talking about here? Saldana? Beyond her quoted statement

I think that he’s still too personally attached to this character that he created and I think that he needs to find that line between his personal life and this character.”

I haven't heard anything else. Where is she being defensive?

 

[ancient]

She basically said Takei needs to get a life then goes on to be incredibly aggressively defensive about criticism she's received.

Classic bully behavior. All I really care about here is George Takei's opinion. Everyone else is pissing in the wind. For George, playing Sulu was an almost therapeutic experience, and I'd rather he stayed king of that particular hill.

 

[CorporalClegg]

It was never his hill to reign.

 

[ancient]

I m new here...but moderation is funny here someone talks about gel and it is humor...a person says to re read and it is a serious offense hehe...glup
My english is even worse than i thought it was...

Don't let the typical old guard forum nonsense get you down buddy.

 

[{ Emilia }]

Classic bully behavior. All I really care about here is George Takei's opinion. Everyone else is pissing in the wind. For George, playing Sulu was an almost therapeutic experience, and I'd rather he stayed king of that particular hill.

I don't know. I don't think he owns the Sulu character. If they want to take the character in a new direction and he doesn't agree with it, that's just fine.
Maybe it would have made sense to talk to him first before explicitly stating that it's meant to be an homage to him, though.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I m new here...but moderation is funny here someone talks about gel and it is humor...a person says to re read and it is a serious offense hehe...glup
My english is even worse than i thought it was...

Context is everything. As is history.

 

[Kemaiku]

I m new here.

We can literally see your join date, that's a little redundant.

 

[JeffinOakland]

Classic bully behavior. All I really care about here is George Takei's opinion. Everyone else is pissing in the wind. For George, playing Sulu was an almost therapeutic experience, and I'd rather he stayed king of that particular hill.

Maybe they just caught her on a bad day. I hope for her sake. 38 is too old to be acting 23.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I don't know. I don't think he owns the Sulu character. If they want to take the character in a new direction and he doesn't agree with it, that's just fine.
Maybe it would have make sense to talk to him first before explicitly stating that it's meant to be an homage to him, though.

They did talk to him. He didn't like the idea and said so. They decided to do it anyway. Felt having a gay character was more important that George's okay.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Maybe they just caught her on a bad day. I hope for her sake. 38 is too old to be acting 23.

Work with me here. What did she say?

 

[jotap]

I honestly believe that homage talk is not sincere. It was a shortcut. It is my feeling

 

[JeffinOakland]

Work with me here. What did she say?

Read the interview if you're so curious. Google "saldana" and "takei". Stop pestering me about it.

 

[ancient]

I don't know. I don't think he owns the Sulu character. If they want to take the character in a new direction and he doesn't agree with it, that's just fine.
Maybe it would have made sense to talk to him first before explicitly stating that it's meant to be an homage to him, though.

My point is not that he "owns" the character, my point is that his opinion is what matters to me. Obviously Paramount can do whatever, but if they wanted to honor George, they would listen to him. That doesn't seem to be the case though. They certainly have the right to tell George to go fuck himself, I just don't think that's the right thing to do, personally.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Read the interview if you're so curious. Google "saldana" and "takei". Stop pestering me about it.

I read the article and even quoted what she said. I'm asking if there is anything beyond that one quoted statement.

 

[jotap]

Exactly my thoughts..after all i am not alone here

 

[jotap]

Context is everything. As is history.

Lol..ok

 

[JeffinOakland]

Quite the tempest in a teacup. They expected Takei to be "flattered". He wasn't. His not being flattered caused drama. He retconned his earlier comments (twice). Now Zaldana has to chime in and tell him off. After all this, it'll be a 30 second scene in a glorified action flick.