Whatever you want to call it, doesn't make it another universe. Blowing up a planet does not change someones sexuality. It's like saying "bringing the whale back made Kirk homosexual"
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Whatever you want to call it, doesn't make it another universe. Blowing up a planet does not change someones sexuality. It's like saying "bringing the whale back made Kirk homosexual"
I can't see that Vulcans approve of homosexuality in fertile age.
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Agreed. I think it's best to move on and focus elsewhere.
No, the thing is, you don't understand my points. Maybe they are too hard for you to understand, maybe you're simply not up to par. Why is a matter of debate, but I am serious in what I'm typing and I do understand my points.
Or you arrive back at the point in time where you were always supposed to be, creating a pre-destination paradox.
The alternate universe makes more sense because it prevents a bottle-neck e.g. Hitler was never killed because 7 billion time travellers from 7 billion time zones all turned up at the same time and crushed each other to death.
It's debatable whether a timeline is created from the moment the time traveller appears thus branching, or if that timeline has always existed, running parallel to your original timeline, but in this one you have always been part of its history.
Either way, the whole concept of the temporal police seems silly if you can never erase a timeline, only create/enter a branching timeline, isn't your job completely pointless?
Gay people can and do have children now though. It should be even less of a big deal - and less of an indicator of orientation - in Trek's future.
What character would be less problematic? McCoy who is divorced and his counterpart was divorced twice with an old girlfriend showing up on the show? Scotty and Chekov both had love interests, as did Kirk. Spock and Uhura are already in an established relationship. I can't see how any established character would've been a better fit
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Sulu's daughter Demora will be seen with Sulu's husband, so that's one issue resolved.
What character would be less problematic? McCoy who is divorced and his counterpart was divorced twice with an old girlfriend showing up on the show? Scotty and Chekov both had love interests, as did Kirk. Spock and Uhura are already in an established relationship. I can't see how any established character would've been a better fit
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Sulu's daughter Demora will be seen with Sulu's husband, so that's one issue resolved.
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"I killed Hitler!"
"No you didn't, I killed Hitler!"
"What do you mean you killed Hitler? I stabbed him in the chest! It was plain as day!"
"What? No you didn't, because I made him fall down an open manhole cover and he was fine before I did it."
"All of you are crazy. I went back and sent Hitler to art school. He became a mediocre art scholar in a forgotten school somewhere."
That would get confusing awfully fast.
If an alien species itself takes comfort in close personal relationships between lovers and slso understands the concept of happiness and the seeking of it, then I don't think they'd care twice about how humans do it: heterosexually, homosexually, in pairs, and in any combination of threesomes or foursomes. As John Lennon said, "Whatever gets you through the night 'salright, 'salright." The concept of "a loving physical relationship" between two persons is gender neutral (and in the case of science fiction, species neutral, too). A 23rd century person may be more put off by Sarek and Amanda being married than a gay or lesbian relationship between two humans. Only antiquated or anachronistic human morals take a "loving physical relationship" and draw attention to the sexes involved in the relationship in order to make judgments about whether it's "right" or "wrong." (I don't know if I've phrased that to convey exactly what I mean, but it's the best I can do right now.)
There was also this to be fair:
Looks like he conjured a women without trousers and wanted to grab her breast.
To be fair, I don't think McCoy's daughter Joanna was ever officially mentioned on screen, but it was intended and part of his history in the show's bible. There were plans to use her in TOS that just never worked out.
The reason gay people sometimes don't figure out their sexuality as early as straight people is because of prejudice and social pressure. The closet wouldn't exist without homophobia, which shouldn't exist in Trek's future. So I think writing any gay character figuring it out so late in life would be a betrayal of Trek's values. I'd be very against that.
The reason gay people sometimes don't figure out their sexuality as early as straight people is because of prejudice and social pressure. The closet wouldn't exist without homophobia, which shouldn't exist in Trek's future. So I think writing any gay character figuring it out so late in life would be a betrayal of Trek's values. I'd be very against that.
Quick! Where's the facepalm gif?
Damn gay ducks. Ruining it for all the other ducks.
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