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HUGE Mr Sulu Spoiler

Not true, according to the self annointed successor to Gene.

"The main thrust for those who aren’t keen on our LGBT Sulu, seems to come down to two things. Firstly, why Sulu? It’s a good point, I mean it could have been anybody: Kirk is a pansexual fun seeker; who knows why Bones got divorced? Nobody said Spock and Uhura were exclusive; Chekov is just permanently horny and let’s face it, there’s more to Scotty and Keenser than meets the eye."

Funny this. I said pretty much all of the above for comedic effect the other day in order to criticise Pegg's actions, and got an infraction for trolling. Two days later, Pegg comes out with the same thing while presumably being quite serious, and everyone thinks he's wonderful.

Now, having typed pansexual in to google, I'm still none the wiser, although I get the impression it's a label made up by some special snowflakes who's sexual proclivities are so off the wall, they feel they need a little name tag all of their own because having gay representation and rights just doesn't cut the mustard. Either that, or just being plain bi-sexual just ain't enough fun.

I'm pretty sure Pegg doesn't know what it means either, considering he's applied it to Kirk, a character who's never shown sexual attraction towards anyone but women. Has Pegg ever watched Star Trek, or is he just making this bullshit up as he goes?

I also notice a large portion of the final paragraph of his latest blog has also disappeared. Having read it yesterday, the removed lines were so obnoxious and deliberately offensive, Paramount have probably told him that even his idiocy had crossed the line.

Also, I see the "George Takei is a homophobe" brigade have turned up here. Always fun to see how quickly the gays turn on themselves at the quickest opportunity. For all the preaching of love and tolerance, and those ever so pretty rainbow flags they like waving around, some of them are just as intolerant as everyone else.

You seem very bitter and frustrated, in general, I mean.
 
Not true, according to the self annointed successor to Gene.

"The main thrust for those who aren’t keen on our LGBT Sulu, seems to come down to two things. Firstly, why Sulu? It’s a good point, I mean it could have been anybody: Kirk is a pansexual fun seeker; who knows why Bones got divorced? Nobody said Spock and Uhura were exclusive; Chekov is just permanently horny and let’s face it, there’s more to Scotty and Keenser than meets the eye."

Funny this. I said pretty much all of the above for comedic effect the other day in order to criticise Pegg's actions, and got an infraction for trolling. Two days later, Pegg comes out with the same thing while presumably being quite serious, and everyone thinks he's wonderful.

I believe I quite succinctly laid out the reasons you got an infraction for trolling in our PM discussion the other day, but since you wish to litigate it again, here's a reminder:

1) You said the "gay vibe" was running around half-naked, sweaty, and thrusting your "sword" in everyone's faces.
2) You said to play gay that you have to be campy and flamboyant.
3) You said homosexuality was being shoehorned in and forced on the audience, ironically in the same sentence where you said you have no problem with gays being on Trek even though you clearly do.
4) You said someone would have to put on a "gay voice" to play a gay character, which I presume is flamboyant, high-pitched, and with a lisp in your imagination.
5) You said Zachary Quinto can barely contain his gayness on the screen and can't "act straight," whatever that means, since he exhibits none of the flamboyant and stereotypical qualities you mention above as the calling cards of acting gay.
6) You broke out the slippery slope of "What's next if we accept gay characters? Bestiality?". Between Scotty and a tribble, no less.
7) You got needlessly political with the liberal comment.

There was nothing comedic about it. You've been on a homophobic tear around the entire BBS every time a thread about LGBT issues comes up. I suppose your next bits here are all just part of your comedy routine too, right?

I get the impression it's a label made up by some special snowflakes who's sexual proclivities are so off the wall, they feel they need a little name tag all of their own because having gay representation and rights just doesn't cut the mustard. Either that, or just being plain bi-sexual just ain't enough fun.

Also, I see the "George Takei is a homophobe" brigade have turned up here. Always fun to see how quickly the gays turn on themselves at the quickest opportunity. For all the preaching of love and tolerance, and those ever so pretty rainbow flags they like waving around, some of them are just as intolerant as everyone else.
I think I saw one person suggest that it was possible that Takei might have some latent homophobia as a result of living through the rampant homophobia of the past several decades as a closeted gay man at the time. One, and he raised the point in the most reasonable, sympathetic, and non-accusatory manner possible. Somehow you've managed to turn that into a whole movement of "The Gays" turning on themselves, because that "fun" thought obviously pleases you.

You say angry, hateful things and you really should consider taking a break from discussing gay issues before your head explodes or you get in trouble. I'm not telling you that you have to stop participating, but if you can't control how you express yourself in these discussions and avoid bigoted remarks you're going to get in trouble.

Don't bring up your infraction in the thread again.
 
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*sighs* That's amazing, they managed to screw it up. They could have picked basically any other character besides Kirk, Uhura and Spock, and they picked Sulu even though it's more or less canon he's not gay. (yes I am aware you can have a family as gay). Bones would have been a much better choice. Amazing.
 
Now, having typed pansexual in to google, I'm still none the wiser, although I get the impression it's a label made up by some special snowflakes who's sexual proclivities are so off the wall, they feel they need a little name tag all of their own because having gay representation and rights just doesn't cut the mustard. Either that, or just being plain bi-sexual just ain't enough fun.

What do you care? Are you worried your status as a "special snowflake" will be diminished by recognizing that people are simply different from one another?

Not sure what is so hard to understand about "not limited in sexual choice with regard to biological sex, gender, or gender identity"? It is the very first thing that popped up on Google.
 
*sighs* That's amazing, they managed to screw it up. They could have picked basically any other character besides Kirk, Uhura and Spock, and they picked Sulu even though it's more or less canon he's not gay. (yes I am aware you can have a family as gay). Bones would have been a much better choice. Amazing.

Where is it canon that he isn't gay? What in 79 episodes and 6 feature films has defined him as straight?
 
You know exactly what I'm talking about. Stop acting obtuse.

I think the question is pretty straight forward. What in 79 episodes and 6 feature films has defined Sulu as straight?

Just as a side note: McCoy was flirting pretty heavily with Carol Marcus in Star Trek Into Darkness.
 
Besides not answering the question, say it with me slowly: ALTERNATE UNIVERSE... PRIOR CANON DOES NOT APPLY.

I don't agree. Of course things after Vulcan exploded can't really be canon, but someones sexuality in my opinion shouldn't change. Or do you think Enterprise isn't canon anymore? It's not an "alternative" universe, it's the same universe.
 
It's a question that you can't answer. Because no proof exists. Nice try at diversion though.

It's a stupid question because you know full well what I mean, and I know you do. If by some reason you don't you're not up to par as a star trek fan to discuss with me. Anyway, I also wrote that it's "more or less canon". I'm done with you until you stop acting dumber than you are.
 
It's a stupid question because you know full well what I mean, and I know you do. If by some reason you don't you're not up to par as a star trek fan to discuss with me. Anyway, I also wrote that it's "more or less canon". I'm done with you until you stop acting dumber than you are.

:lol:

It isn't canon at all. And never was.
 
It wasn't a stupid question, and you've still refused to answer. If the answer is so simple and obvious, please explain to us rubes.

No I refuse to fall into that debatical trap of having to explain things that I know you know.
 
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