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Preacher - AMC TV Show - Discussion Thread

I've been re-reading the comic book. I'm up to
finishing the Jesse's family arc
. I have to say the book isn't holding up quite as well as I remember it. Some of the writing is a little clumsy and stilted. Still great stuff. And man, the show is even LESS like the comic than I remembered!!!

I miss Jesse's personality from the comic. He's a real take no shit cowboy, yet he's super cool and compassionate. Also, having re-read these issues, I feel it's criminal that we're spending an entire season with him as a Preacher without
DIRECTLY referencing his terror of his Grandmother
.
 
I just re-read all of the Preacher one-offs including
the Saint of Killers mini-series. They're being surprisingly faithful to that story so far, though I sincerely doubt we're going to see him travel to Hell where the Devil is playing cards with the Angel of Death![/spoilers]
 
oh man, Eugene! That poor guy just can't catch a break and his heart seems to be in the right place. Jesse should have listened to him, but Jesse saying "then I'll be free" is a clue to his mindset. BTW I counted 12-13 commercials at every break.
 
I just re-readA all of the Preacher one-offs including
the Saint of Killers mini-series. They're being surprisingly faithful to that story so far, though I sincerely doubt we're going to see him travel to Hell where the Devil is playing cards with the Angel of Death![/spoilers]
After this episode you may be wrong.
 
I think that was the best episode yet.
The fight scene at the beginning was crazy, with all of the deaths and returns. I liked Tulip and Emily's scene together.
Jesse sending Eugene to Hell was a crazy twist. It definitely looks like things are starting to pick up now.
 
I think that was the best episode yet.
The fight scene at the beginning was crazy, with all of the deaths and returns. I liked Tulip and Emily's scene together.
Jesse sending Eugene to Hell was a crazy twist. It definitely looks like things are starting to pick up now.

I also liked this episode alot, but I was confused by it. Jesse can't just order someone to go to hell (as far as I knew). All he can do is make them do what they are (or know they are) capable of doing. Just like Cassidy couldn't fly just because he commanded him to, Arseface couldn't just go to hell because he said so.

Anyway, people really need to catch up on this show. I know it's been renewed, but I really hope people start streaming it heavily in between seasons.
 
Oh man that's an excellent point. He shouldn't be able to order someone to Hell. Unless they're seriously goosing his power for the tv show. Or maybe someone ELSE did it to make him think he did it?
 
It was my impression from the episode's end that his powers are increasing. He was getting pissed, perhaps he tapped into the demon half of Genesis and unlocked even more power or new powers.

Really liking this quirky show...

Q2
 
Well, unless they are vampire hunters anyway. Plus, he didn't hesitate to nail that seraphim they were fighting. And I meant that in a gunfire way.
I don't understand why he is such good friends with Jesse anyway. It wasn't really established very well, in my opinion.
 
Cassidy, Tulip, and Emily are all disappointed in Jesse and he backed off on using his Voice on the congregation so he's unnerved by what he did to Eugene too. I can't wait to see what happened to Cassidy and also where Jesse goes from here. Good episode.
 
I'm 2/3 done re-reading the original comic, which is making the tv show really suffer in comparison. I just can't fathom the decision to move the story this damn slowly, and to use Odin Quincannon, the worst storyline in the comic, as the primary story.

My interest was finally picqued when Jesse accidentally sent Arseface to Hell, but I should've known they'd barely deal it this whole episode. I also really don't like what they're doing with Jesse's character, either. It just feels like the spirit and character of the comic isn't here at all.
 
The final member of the congregation to leave the church in the last episode looked suspiciously like Garth Ennis wearing sunglasses. Does anyone know if that was him?
 
It's kind of funny that the vampire is the most decent character on the show.
An interesting grounding for the most morally complex character in the books.

Still, after enjoying the pilot tremendously, there have only been a few real flashes of wonder or interest in the show and we are 7 episodes deep. For the first 4 episodes I found myself sat in front of the TV early on Monday mornings to watch the new episode on Amazon Prime, and now... I am struggling to find the will to watch the 7th episode, and with S4 of The Americans, S2 of 12 Monkeys, S2 of Outlander and S3 of Penny Dreadful on the box to watch, I fear the remainder of this season will slip well down the pecking order.

After all my gusto and interest to begin with, I find myself in Mr Light's camp where little of the character of the characters from the comics are up on screen. I never wanted a slavish adaptation, however, for all his rough edges and high mindedness the comic version of Jesse was likeable. I find little interesting or agreeable about his current interpretation. Couple this with fractured, slow-developing storytelling and I struggle to engage with it all (barring the occasional bout of superviolence that briefly overloads the senses).

Given how the comic kicks the story domino-line straight over on page 1 of issue one and almost never relents, I can understand the want to try and ground the show in a sense of reality, before the unreal submerges everything. But what they have offered about the characters, Annville and the Divine plot, hasn't clicked for me.

The creators wanted to use S1 as a prequel of sorts, so one can hope that the recently commissioned S2 will fold in the comic's story more fully and allow more of the insanity of Ennis' work come through and more importantly, the fun of it all.

A pity, because it still looks amazing and all of the cast are offering up strong performances, just most of them are saying and doing little of note or interest.

Hugo - One look at their faces, and I could tell the Good Lord was using my prayers to wipe his ass.
 
I just finished reading the comic book series. I'd actually managed to forget a lot of it.
My twenty year old opinion stands. The series was amazing right up to the end of "War in the Sun", and then it was pretty much bad to average from that point on. Instead of the story ramping up, the climax is really the Saint fighting the US Army in the desert and getting nuked, and everything is so small scale from there on in. Also, the Big Three are never together again for the rest of the series and it's just not fun anymore. And the Salvation arc remains a colossal waste of time. Even the "Alamo" ending is small and disappointing, and it's really about Jesse having it out with Cassidy rather than Starr and the Grail. That's the other thing. The Grail goes from a global conspiracy running the world to.... Starr and twelve soldiers? Ugh. And Starr goes from a noble warrior saving the Grail from itself to someone petty and self-involved and not even caring about the fate of the world. He became a cartoon. Compare this with the Starr from his origin one shot issue.

One thing I do see now that I didn't then is the clumsy and stilted writing at times. The way people go off on these long noble monologues. The immaturity that goes beyond the sexual antics.

Well, at least since the tv show is doing Quincannon in Season 1, that means they're not going to do that godawful Salvation story after War in the Sun. If they do War in the Sun.
 
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