I think this is the problem with movies vs novelisation. However you can tell the cast of xmen really liked Bryan Singer because they all showed up for their cameos in DOFP and the movie was a bit more awesome because of it. Sometimes it's worth it.
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Depends on clauses in the contract, too. Not sure it's just because they like Singer.
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True. They could have forced Eve to appear, I have no doubt. They likely did not want her in this movie because her fee would have been too high for a small part. The X-men actors in DoFP were no longer under contract. Marsden, Jannsen, and Grammar appeared essentially as a favour (although it's possible that Jannsen signed a clause when making the Wolverine, that's not the impression I get from the interviews).
Whether we ever see Sulu's husband again could depend on who plays him! It's more likely we'll see an older version of his daughter and a mention of the other dad. Who knows? Don't even know if the other dude is a civilian.
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He co-wrote the film, the same writing team will probably do XIV.
See above from earlier today about Sulu's husband and daughter!
I'll assume you're being facetious.
Wow. Good spot!
Nope. Are you?
Nope.
Nice talking to you, then.
Your argument kind of falls apart with the use of "could have been", "possible" and "for all we know". What we know is right there on the screen. And on screen Kirk, Picard and Yar are straight. Yes that could change in the next movie or series, but until then they are straight.
Nothing stops fanfic writers. Especially lack of talent. I didn't know Pocket published fanfic.
He's at the top of that hill already. He doesn't need it. If you look at his FB feed he only mentions it once and goes back to his usual puns and what not.
The idea being put forth is that characters that are perceived as being straight - or gay for that matter - could be bisexual and we're just not seeing them with the other sex. It's not a particularly fulfilling outlook imo. I never felt like there was more LGBT inclusion just because characters could be revealed to have sides to them we aren't seeing, but it isn't exactly wrong either.
Killing Time is a Trek novel published in the 80s. The original draft did include subtext of Kirk and Spock romance - nothing overt or explicit, but the tone and language were slightly suggestive of that. The editors asked her to do an edit to pull back the homoerotic subtext, and she did. But then the publishers bungled and printed her first draft. A second edition of the rewrite was later published, but the original version is still in wide circulation. I have a copy of the original. It's a good read, with a plot that deals with an alternate timeline created by the Romulans (which also makes the subtext less controversial imo, as it's all an alternate timeline anyways). Spock is captain of the Enterprise and going thru his second (I think - or is third?) Pon Far, the female Romulan Commander is around with her own agenda, and Kirk is an ensign with a troubled past. There's an interesting crew member from a canine species.
And no gay sex or overt romance. Just a subtext that suggests, if you want to see it, that there's chemistry and possibilities between AU Kirk and Spock.
It's an officially published novel and not fan fiction.
The credited author of "Killing Time", Della Van Hise (and her writing partner, Wendy Rathbone), was already known to fandom as a "slash" fanfic author and publisher. "Killing Time" caused a minor controversy because the story involved an alternate timeline and the wrong version of the manuscript was published. It was quickly replaced with a second printing that eliminated certain phrases.
You know what the best part of this gay Sulu thing is? The millions upon millions of people who aren't on this board, witnessing this bickering will accept it without question. Only a few thousand nerds will even know there was a discussion. So keep quoting canon to try to refute this. You don't matter.
This isn't the only comment forum in the world. Ever heard of Facebook, for example?
The surprising thing for me is how quiet the various Trek-related Facebook groups I'm a member of have been on the subject.
I wonder if the more generalized threads (major media outlets) have been more active.
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