As much as I'd love to have a JJPrise, it won't be happening.
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I think it being a lockbox ship is what makes it nearly unobtainable for some.
Yup.
I don't use them on principle. Heck, I don't even do them in SWTOR where I have loads of disposable currency and the packs are all vanity.
I think they're a terrible concept and only hurt the F2P industry.
And, FWIW, if it were on the C-Store, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
According to an interview with one of the devs, Paramount wasn't the sole reason they didn't have Kelvin Timeline stuff before, it was JJ Abrams. He didn't want tie ins at the time.
Cryptic called up CBS and basicly asked "hey, can we do this, our expansion is coming out around the same time as beyond" and they were fine with it.
That is actually the reason why, CBS won't allow them to sell Alternate Timeline/universe/non-Faction Alien ships directly to players.
So it is either lockbox or nothing.
Cryptic called up CBS and basicly asked "hey, can we do this, our expansion is coming out around the same time as beyond" and they were fine with it.
That is actually the reason why, CBS won't allow them to sell Alternate Timeline/universe/non-Faction Alien ships directly to players.
So it is either lockbox or nothing.
I'm calling half-bullshit on that. I think CBS just didn't want them to directly profit over it. Had they don't something similar to the Ambassador, they probably wouldn't care either.
*ETA Actually, I'll even add that, had Cryptic gone to them and said, we'd like to do a limited-time special event to celebrate the 50th anniversary and cross-promote STB, where people can earn a KT Constitution replica, CBS would have said "great."
*ETA Actually, I'll even add that, had Cryptic gone to them and said, we'd like to do a limited-time special event to celebrate the 50th anniversary and cross-promote STB, where people can earn a KT Constitution replica, CBS would have said "great."
The problem with that is the story that Cryptic have come up with to explain these ships. They are stating that scientists in our universe have figured out a way, based on their findings about the alternate universe, on how to build these ships. These aren't ships that have traveled across, or were salvaged from the other timeline, our own factions are now building these ships. Hence the still enforced faction restrictions.
So, if we can have the Galaxy Dreadnought; an alternate future Starfleet ship belonging to a timeline that no longer happens; or the Dauntless-class; an alien ship made to look like a Starfleet vessel, then we should arguably be able to have these in the c-store.
Also, this is CBS telling fans of the new Trek films that they're worth less than their Prime Timeline fans. I've seen twitter posts over the last few days by people at Cryptic and CBS stating that the "New Trek" films are just as much proper Star Trek as any other iteration, yet we have a situation now that contradicts these statements. It seems somewhat cruel to force those who may have got into Star Trek via the new films, and may want to try out STO, to have to obtain them in this incredibly expensive and restrictive way.
Which is why I called half-bullshit.
In fact, I'll bet it was PWE/Arc who insisted on the lock box, in the end--because CBS wouldn't let them profit from it directly.
In fact, I'll bet it was PWE/Arc who insisted on the lock box, in the end--because CBS wouldn't let them profit from it directly.
There are time-gated Alien ship giveaways as well for the same reason, not everyone can get them, once it is over it is over. Summer event, winter events, sometimes the anniversary event, probably another CBS thing to limit the amount of them out there.
The Ambassador you can get all the time from 'Temporal Ambassador' because it is a Prime Timeline ship
Lockbox ships have always been the Ferengi taking them and selling them as the lore reason (Hence the Lobi Consortium, a subsidiarity of Quark Enterprises). The scientists were probably Ferengi, or hired by the Ferengi.
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Geko said on a podcast today that a Kelvin Timeline faction is possible if enough people want it. I wonder how they'd work that with these ships currently in a lockbox. That was always my issue with the Cardassian Galor-class warship being in one, though that at least has had enough time passed to maybe smooth over any ruffles.
Saying that, since the Federation/Starfleet faction is where Cryptic have stated the vast majority of their playerbase is, it would make sense to add another sub-faction to that. If they also allow Klingon and Romulan unlocks on our accounts similar to what they're doing with AOY (TOS style Gorn for KDF) then I'd be fine with it.
Saying that, since the Federation/Starfleet faction is where Cryptic have stated the vast majority of their playerbase is, it would make sense to add another sub-faction to that. If they also allow Klingon and Romulan unlocks on our accounts similar to what they're doing with AOY (TOS style Gorn for KDF) then I'd be fine with it.
They would probably do nothing. The TOS Connie isn't free for TOS characters.
But it is easily obtainable from a number of packs, which you are guaranteed to get said ship when you purchase, and the pack is also an account unlock. The starter pack here is reasonably priced for example: https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/game-pack/detail/926-temporal-agent-starter-pack
The other week one player was mentioning how they'd spent around $200 on lockbox keys and never got a ship out any of them. As I stated above this is stupidly expensive, and with no account unlock highly restrictive. Every other Star Trek TV series and film has had the vast majority of their factional ships placed into the c-store, yet the only Trek currently going since Enterprise was cancelled 11 years ago does not. If the new films are considered just as much Star Trek as the rest of it is this really fair to those fans?
The other week one player was mentioning how they'd spent around $200 on lockbox keys and never got a ship out any of them. As I stated above this is stupidly expensive, and with no account unlock highly restrictive. Every other Star Trek TV series and film has had the vast majority of their factional ships placed into the c-store, yet the only Trek currently going since Enterprise was cancelled 11 years ago does not. If the new films are considered just as much Star Trek as the rest of it is this really fair to those fans?
And let's be honest here, STO is such a hodge-podge theme park of all Star Trek that them saying they don't want too many alien/non-faction/alternate timeline ships in circulation is considerably suspect. Every time I enter a queue, or some other event, I'm inundated with the sight of these apparently "rare" lockbox ships. This is simply, purely down to money, and I wish they'd just fess up to it rather than trying to justify it with maintaining the Prime Timeline's "purity", because clearly no one at CBS or Cryptic must actually play the game if that were the case.
I'm not sure what's more entertaining the game itself or some of the posts on the official forum regarding the Kelvin lockbox. I avoid lockboxes on principle and only get my end games ships out of the c-store. I'm more excited about getting TOS and Ent-J styled ships at endgame. I feel sorry for anyone who is a big fan of the reboot films that wants these ships, I wouldn't mind a Vengeance but I can live without it. I imagine a reboot only fan would be disappointed that the ships are stupidly expensive to get but the game was never geared towards that part of the fandom anyway.
Okay, I'll admit I went a tad ranty. Hell, they didn't even release the ship I did want. Bastards.
A T6 Vesta may be tricky for Cryptic to pull off. All rights to the Vesta ship design belongs to Mark Rademaker. And it took almost a year of negotiations to get those ships added in STO.
To have a T6 Vesta, Cryptic will have to renegotiate with Rademaker. Maybe even pay him to design a next generation Vesta. At any rate, I suspect it will be at least another year's worth of negotiations before we see a T6 Vesta.
To have a T6 Vesta, Cryptic will have to renegotiate with Rademaker. Maybe even pay him to design a next generation Vesta. At any rate, I suspect it will be at least another year's worth of negotiations before we see a T6 Vesta.
As a point of reference, the STO main universe is designed as the Prime universe versus the JJverse as the Kelvin universe/timeline?
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