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BREAKING: Official Fan Film Guidelines Issued
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Still, within the boundaries of this rule on content, I think there is room for fan films to turn the tables by dealing with controversial and provocative socio-political issues that official Trek never ever deals with. Do any fan film producers out there want to be bold and push forward in this direction?
Kor
New is also a subjective thing. Doesn't STC already have another episode already shot? Where do you draw the line on what constitutes new vs. finishing up something? Does crowdfunding constitute a stage of pre-production? This transition to these restrictions is gonna be messy.
As to fan-filmmakers opting to just ignore this and do whatever they want on the basis that they'll get away with it, well, I don't have a lot of sympathy for that attitude. Pre-guidelines you could rationalize it, a sort of silence = toleration attitude. Now CBS/P has gone as far as they're willing to go to spell out the rules. Fans should not piss on this and keep poking CBS/P with sticks. It doesn't matter whether you're selling coffee or paying yourself a salary. It's the principle of the thing.
This is too bad. My fan project would have been swimming in all of that. What a bunch of fuddy duddies Paramount must be.
@Dennis
Doesn't this mean that you are also out of fan films now? Along with...
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Doesn't this mean that you are also out of fan films now? Along with...
- James Cawley
- Nichelle Nichols
- Walter Koeng
- George Takei
- Marina Sirtis
- Michael Dorn
- Chase Masterson
- Denise Crosby
- Tim Russ
- Alan Ruck
- Garrett Wang
- Cirroc Lofton
- Ethan Phillips
- J.G. Hertzler
- Mary Linda Rapelye
- Barbara Luna
- Eddie Paskey
- John Winston
- Lawrence Montaigne
- Larry Nemecek
- Rod Roddenberry
- David Gerrold
- Doug Drexler
- D. C. Fontana
- Daren Dochterman
- Gary Kerr
- Tobias Richter
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@Dennis
Doesn't this mean that you are also out of fan films now? Along with...
... just to name a few that I could think of off the top of my head. Heck, anyone who's work was accepted in one of the Ships of the Line calendars is also banned from fan films now by my reading of the guidelines.
Vic Mignogna was a voice actor in Star Trek Online...
That's not a knockoff. A knockoff is something a third-party makes without legal permissions. IE, they don't want a fan-film to give a third-party company legitimacy.
This appears to only touch on Fan Films, so does this mean that audio dramas are unnafected or not? It does say "Fan Productions", however it also mentions amateur fan filmmakers. Still a real shame but not wholly unexpected. I'm sure the Axanar crowd who have been chanting "We want guidelines!" are now saying. "But not these guidelines."
Let's make a two-hour movie and speed it up so the whole thing plays in fifteen minutes.
And it will be gory, because the rules don't specifically say anything about graphic violence, and in some circles that might be considered OK for family viewing.
It would be technically correct, which is the best kind of correct (tm).
Kor
And it will be gory, because the rules don't specifically say anything about graphic violence, and in some circles that might be considered OK for family viewing.
It would be technically correct, which is the best kind of correct (tm).
Kor
Or you contact licensing and look for legal permissions and exemptions. These rules apply to fans doing things on their own - NOT someone getting explicit permissions from CBS/Paramount.
I think it's fine to blame Alec Peters for being the straw that broke the camel's back, but if we're honest a lot of fanfilms were piling bushels on that camel for a while. AP does not exist in a vacuum. Renegades pushed the boundaries too far, and all these shows going for 6-figure fundraisers (Tommy Kraft included) further forced CBS/Paramount's hand. Too many shows violating the Trademarks, too many shows recruiting professional casts and crews. Many of them contributed to this, each one pushing the boundaries a little further, then AP just pushed and pushed and pushed.
I've been expecting this since Takei and Koenig showed up on New Voyages. It's just taken a lot longer for the hammer to fall.
I've been expecting this since Takei and Koenig showed up on New Voyages. It's just taken a lot longer for the hammer to fall.
And Chris Doohan has been in TMP, ST09 and STID. Two of the major stars of STC can't even be in it now.
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Yeah, audio dramas would be safe, except for the issue that the guidelines don't allow for a series or continuation. If that truly is the case, then any audio productions would be in trouble as well.
CBS and Paramount must be pissed that most Fan Productions are infinitely better than the last two Trek films
Strictly speaking, I would think so.
That said, I've only written one fan film teleplay - "Tressaurian Intersection," twelve years ago - and offered an assist on one of Farragut's scripts about nine years ago. And I haven't worked professionally in Hollywood as a writer for much longer than that.
I've hung around moving furniture, drawing graphics and painting sets on a few productions; since I've never worked as a professional at any of those things I don't know that CBS/Paramount's lawyers would go poring through the credits of a short fan film thing looking to ID me as a "gotcha!"
Of course they're not, since no one in the business and almost no one in the rest of the world believes crap like that.
