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Game Of Thrones Season 6 Discussion (Spoilers)

In our world Jon Snow would have been dead, and stayed that way.
In our world dragons don't grow that fast, especially on a diet of only a couple of cattle a day.

I'm still hoping that we get some explanation for how Arya survived, although my guess is that it will be in the novel rather than the television show.
 
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I'm betting the novel will go in a different direction. Her storyline has only been partially adapted the same, the biggest difference being the presence of Jaqen.
 
Yes and that changed because of magic.

Arya's condition was dealt with a medicine that had previously been established as merely a painkiller with no magical qualities. Big difference.
You don't know that. She could have a special ability we don't know about yet. Like Dany's resistance to fire. All those parkour moves made it look like she was something more than human.
 
Yes, but even when stories diverge from the novels there are often similar events incorporated.
True. I think at least one of her preview chapters is floating around somewhere, so I'm sure someone knows for certain already. I've avoided all of them because I want the whole book at once.

You don't know that. She could have a special ability we don't know about yet. Like Dany's resistance to fire. All those parkour moves made it look like she was something more than human.
But Daenerys' talent is directly tied to her heritage and the rise of magic in the world (which may or may not be happening specifically because of her). Unless I'm mistaken, there's no such examples in the Starks lineage of someone having super-healing powers or whatever else.

Nobody even mentioned that when she jumped down to the stairs, she probably should have broken her legs.
Yeah, that bothered me as well.
 
But Daenerys' talent is directly tied to her heritage and the rise of magic in the world (which may or may not be happening specifically because of her). Unless I'm mistaken, there's no such examples in the Starks lineage of someone having super-healing powers or whatever else.
They are the best there is at what they do, bub.
 
Regarding Arya, it is also possible that something in her training, possibly the potion as well, has given her some sort of inherent abilities that the faceless men have. There didn't seem to be any surprise when she returned to the temple. Perhaps if she had truly mastered the abilities she could be allowed to recover.

Regarding Edmure Tully, I am also wondering if he is going to be allowed to take his men and march north to aid Sansa and Jon. Something about Jaime's speech didn't ring true with me--mainly because it has undone his character arc. At this point he is really not supposed to be Cersei's lap dog any longer. I hope that his speech was just an act to convince Edmure and he really plans on letting them go north to follow Brienne.
 
It might have something to do with being a Stark, being an acolyte of the many faced god, or a being a "chosen one". Or it could be bad story telling. I'm just saying hang in there.
 
Yes and that changed because of magic.

Arya's condition was dealt with a medicine that had previously been established as merely a painkiller with no magical qualities. Big difference.

Exactly. It was lame writing just as Agent Carter surviving being impaled by a rebar and almost making a complete recovery within a matter of a few days. However, it doesn't put me off watching.
 
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On television, when you get hit on the head you get unconscious. IRL if you get unconscious, you need to go to the hospital stat!!
On television, when you shoot at a locker, the locker blows into pieces. IRL it's nearly impossible.
On television, when you get shot in the collar bone, the shoulder, heck even in your arm, you'll survive. IRL, not so much.

Shall I continue?
 
Yeah, it's a minor irritant. Especially annoying is the use of AEDs to treat asystole conditions with a near 100% success rate. If a show otherwise entertains, I can usually tolerate inaccuracy but I mark it down for repeat offences.
 
^ but this is a show where Khal Drogo died from poisoning or infection as a result of a cut across his chest. Where Robert Baratheon died slowly and in agony after being gored by a boar. Martin plays it fairly realistic with injuries for the most part. Arya's superhuman recovery was plain bad writing.
 
Dramatic feint.

D&D
have become renowned for pulling the rug from under the viewer - or at least their show has become synonymous with this trope because the books are full of them. But the watercooler culture that D&D have become used to still, apparently, needs to be endlessly maintained. Keep your characters in jeopardy, keep the viewer shocked and wanting more. And that is what Arya's injury was. It was, however, also the tackiest and laziest version I have seen on the show thus far.

Arya has been shown to be a clever, resourceful girl and, given the cult nature of the Faceless Men, when she abandoned them, there was no way she wasn't going to be hunted down. So to flaunt around town, throwing gold around was tripe, and a plot device to help give herself away to The Waif. Which could have been fine, if used properly. Receiving a major stomach injury now appears to only double down on the stupidity of the writing as, in the end, it offered nothing story wise - Arya was still able to leap, fall, tumble and fight, even though at the end of The Broken Man she was punctured, doubled over and crawling for her life. They could have played the "she killed my new friend, I will avenge her" angle, with the death of the actress she admired so much. Nope, let's parkour her around Braavos like Spiderman, even though she had a massive internal bleed.

I am well aware of standard TV tropes where characters rebound within minutes to allow them to perform the superhuman, or even just "the normal", but that doesn't stop me rolling my eyes every freaking time, and in this case, actively, endlessly tutting at the screen. Just because it is a Trope, doesn't mean it should ever be there. It only means the writers couldn't think of another idea, so gave in to the rote.

The entire section could have run - Arya tries to draw out The Waif, her "over-confidence" gets the better of her, runs and jumps into the river. Arya "hides" away, still tracked down by The Waif and her cyberdyne geo-locating software, Arya "flees" to trap the pair in the cave she secreted Needle in and, whoosh, out goes the candle. Simple, plays up the fact that Arya has become smarter and more cunning thanks to her training, bringing the advantage back to her side by concluding it all in the dark. Didn't need two seasons to get there, but the arc is complete, Arya can hang The Waif's face on the wall, knowing who she is and return to Westeros a warrior for the coming tribulations.

But the producers needed their "character in dire straits" cliffhanger, so they had her stabbed. Which makes the rest of the chase/fight just laughable (regardless of how well it was choreographed and shot).

This has been three episodes in a row where I have finished the 60 minutes with a "meh". There was plenty to enjoy in the episode (Cleganes, Thoros/Berric return/Jamie's singular focus) but much of it was closer to standard, generic ABC/CBS TV storytelling, which I typically try to avoid like the plague.

With all of the plates currently up in the air, I have no doubt that episodes 9/10 will be big, furious episodes of conflict and "drama", but how we have got here hasn't really done much for me and my favourite characters (Arya and Tyrion) have felt utterly wasted over the past two seasons.

Hugo - Also shit at dying
 
With 15 or so episodes to go until the series ends in 2018 (supposedly) I'll stick it out but I'm not hopeful of significant improvement.

I sort of wish they'd let the Waif kill Arya and steal her face and path back to Westeros with a killing agenda set by the Iron Bank or other interested party with enough gold. Both actresses would remain in place and it would upset people who had become too attached to Arya. Instead, we get a female version of Hundred Eyes, who's crap at martial arts, can actually see, and probably now feels that she's invincible after becoming a human colander and surviving.
 
Now that I think about it, is there any father in the entire show other than Ned Stark who isn't an asshole? I know that's also a TV trope, that every son is a disappointment to his demanding father, but you think occasionally you'd find an exception.

I wouldn't be mad if Arya died, but I'd be mad if she died in an uninteresting way in an isolated storyline. It'd seem like a waste of five seasons of development.

Maybe I need to rewatch that scene but it seemed to me like she gave her more than just milk of the poppy, and the milk was just a painkiller that allowed her to sleep so the other things she did could take effect.
 
I love Game of Thrones, but the last two years with Arya have been a waste with the exception of her killing Meryn Trant. "A Girl is no one" has got to be the most repetitive thing ever said on TV.
 
I couldn't exactly make out the face on the wall. I'm going to say it is the Waif "going home" ;)

Plus, I know she had no friends there, but leading the Waif back to Lady Crane and having her get killed also kinda undermines Arya saving her.

The Many-Faced God moves in mysterious ways...He got what he wanted.

Now, how wil Tyrion explain himself. He wasn't exactly wrong. I think that meeting might have bought time for the Mother of Dragons to return. She easily could have set that fleet aflame before landing.
 
Now, how wil Tyrion explain himself. He wasn't exactly wrong. I think that meeting might have bought time for the Mother of Dragons to return. She easily could have set that fleet aflame before landing.
She doesn't know that the Ironborn rebels are on the way with their fleet yet, so she needs the ships. And the Master's ships are mostly manned by slaves who she wouldn't want to kill, so the smart move would be to fly Drogon over the Master's fleet breathing flames to scare them into thinking she'll burn them all, promise the Master's safe passage home if they surrender, and then lock them all down in the dungeon with the other two dragons once they come ashore, so the dragons have plenty of food. If they protest, she can just remind them that she and her advisers showed them mercy or made peace with them twice before and they broke their word each time, so turnabout is fair play.
 
(no spoilers here) Hmm, I wonder if Theon's fleet will show up at Mereen right behind the Masters' fleet, trapping them in Slavers Bay, forcing Dany to fly over there on a dragon and make some hasty negotiations...
 
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