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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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CBS/Paramount have many means to shut down Axanar other than the lawsuit, I doubt highly that it's a surgical strike to benefit all the other fan film studios by only effecting Axanar.
Corporations are always buying and selling off properties so I'm just wondering if this is about the goings on at a higher level.
For about the last year Alibaba has been funding and accumulating a stake in Paramount. Sumner Redstone also has been in a power struggle to maintain control of CBS. Is it possible the Star Trek Franchise follows the Mission Impossible franchise into the production arm of the Chinese?

From online:

Mission: Impossible – Rogue Nation is our first step toward internationalization, and Alibaba Pictures looks forward to collaborating with more international movie studios where we can consolidate resources, technologies and talents to establish a world-class integrated entertainment platform for the film industry,” said Zhang Qiang, CEO of Alibaba Pictures.​

Looks like Axanar Productions / I dont know Studios has competition.

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I'm too lazy to go back and read my old posts, but I think I said that it was well done but a little vapid and that Alec did a poor job acting. I was far too lukewarm to make a donation, but I was certainly interested in seeing the film. Even with a bad script and bad acting (Alec was still cast as the lead at the time), I think it would've been worth watching just for the production design. I'm always interested in seeing the look and feel of various time periods in Trek lore.
 
Many cases are settled during discovery because it eventually turns up evidence one of the parties feels seriously questions its likelihood to prevail in court.
If Axanar doesn't already question their ability to prevail at trial, there is no hope for them.
 
I just watched the new teaser, and that narration was ridiculously cheesy. The whole "The Federation Stands United" thing at the end cracked me up.

Don't you think it probably _was_ dialogue already recorded for either Prelude or the film itself? Surely they didn't get Hertzler to come back in and record something new for them? After all that's happened?
 
Yes I will be at Denver Comic Con, I will be at the Trekyards booth. Alec is set up in the booth next to me since he was invited by DCC and trekyards. so yes there may be photos with me in the same area as Alec. That does not mean I have rejoined Axanar. I will be civil to him or anyone else there from the production. IDIC is my philosophy this weekend.
 
I'm too lazy to go back and read my old posts, but I think I said that it was well done but a little vapid and that Alec did a poor job acting. I was far too lukewarm to make a donation, but I was certainly interested in seeing the film. Even with a bad script and bad acting (Alec was still cast as the lead at the time), I think it would've been worth watching just for the production design. I'm always interested in seeing the look and feel of various time periods in Trek lore.

Don't lie man. Everyone salivated over the fantastic script, especially the witty zingers like 'Queen Bitch Whore of the Federation'.
 
Don't you think it probably _was_ dialogue already recorded for either Prelude or the film itself? Surely they didn't get Hertzler to come back in and record something new for them? After all that's happened?
As far as I know, JGH is still attached to the production. However, the less than stellar delivery of the narration would suggest that either:
  • it was new dialogue, recorded swiftly and in less than ideal conditions
  • it was old Prelude dialogue, possible from an early rehearsal (hence not not suitable for the final product)
I will say this though: JGH can make even the cheesiest narration sound passable, at least!
 
The cadence seems to change mid-way, so I'm wondering if it wasn't spliced together from different recordings.
 
If Axanar doesn't already question their ability to prevail at trial, there is no hope for them.

Its one thing for them to know they have exposures; its another for them to see that the Plaintiffs have gotten ahold of the evidence.

Cases in point, being unable to avoid bragging about intentions during discovery; seeing someone with incriminating emails (should they exist) become known as being a witness for the Plaintiffs (perhaps by their discovery interview); finding out that the Plaintiffs have plenty of detailed records of discussions which contradict (should that contradiction exist) defendant claims of being unadvised.

None of which, of course, is in the remotest sense likely. And none of which is already on any record anywhere. [ A little mind reading might be present in the prior two sentences :shifty: ]
 
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I'm too lazy to go back and read my old posts, but I think I said that it was well done but a little vapid and that Alec did a poor job acting. I was far too lukewarm to make a donation, but I was certainly interested in seeing the film. Even with a bad script and bad acting (Alec was still cast as the lead at the time), I think it would've been worth watching just for the production design. I'm always interested in seeing the look and feel of various time periods in Trek lore.
To be fair, I thought Peters was fine in Prelude, an opinion sure to unleash the wrath of many because Anger. That said, all the role entailed was just sitting down and talking. Maybe he reminded me of Forrest Gump on that bench.
 
So, does anyone know what was really on the teleprompter the night of JJ Abrams' announcement?

The next day, people were saying that it looked like Adam Savage was taken back by the off-script comments, and that his teleprompter stopped on the question he was supposed to be asking Justin Lin at the time.

A few days later, a couple blogs claimed that all of JJ's comments were on the teleprompter, that he wasn't off-script at all.

Now, three weeks after the event, BuzzFeed says that the teleprompter instructed Adam to ad-lib a question / answer exchange about the law suit.

So, which one of these is correct? Or at least, nearest to the truth?
 
Discovery - the schedule has already been laid out by the court and the parties. Subpoena lists already exist (AP has said he is listed to be deposed although that's hardly a surprise as he is the sole named defendant).

Questioning is generally open except for relevancy objections. You can't pull a self-incrimination dodge in civil cases, but if anything is asked wherein the question could incriminate anyone in a potential future criminal matter (that could include criminal fraud, sports fans), then a witness could try to plead the Fifth Amendment. If I am the party asking the question being objected to, I am probably taking it to the judge for a ruling. But a ruling over the phone (if that is what happens) might not result in much more than a one- or two-line ruling. We might not see too much detail from our vantage point.

Case relevancy is technically anything within the pleadings or related thereto, so the Mary Sue bedtime story is actually in the mix (e. g. would AP's third grade transcripts apply? We all would rightfully find that to be stupid overreaching, but it's Winston and Strawn who opened up that door, and not Loeb and Loeb). However, AP's love life is not up for grabs except in the context of Ms. Kingsbury being a part of the production and fulfillment staff, and potentially Crysstal (I have forgotten her surname, sorry) knowing something or other although I think she doesn't know anything that can't better be testified to by someone else.

If I am plaintiffs, I want to know about the following topics:
  • Intentional infringement - that would mean higher-ups in the production of both Prelude and the full-length feature. Hence we are talking RMB, possibly Mr. Gossett. It is highly likely that would not mean actors.
  • Material gain and benefit - that would mean people involved with the money and its collection and the means for collecting it, which is Mr. McIntosh, Ms. Kingsbury, and possibly (albeit less likely) higher-up artists creating items which the production ended up selling, although I think that's a stretch. That's Mr. Tourangeau and Mr. Richter but again I think they are less likely to be subpoenaed. Does it mean anyone in what I have been calling the investment consortium? That might be considered to be a fishing expedition. We shall see.
  • Continued infringement and benefit - that would mean a look into the financials. AP is the person to ask about this but it would be in conjunction with a forensic audit by a licensing CPA.
Hence they would be (I believe) subpoenaing AP (we already know this), RMB, Mr. McIntosh, and Ms. Kingsbury, and demanding a forensic audit. Others might or might not be subpoenaed as more information comes to light.

If I am defense, I want to know about the following topics:
  • Permission, whether express or implied - that would mean anyone AP alleges he conversed with regarding guidelines or issues. That is Ms. Kalodner, Mr. Ross, Mr. Burke, and Mr. Van Citters. The former two are Paramount, I believe, with the latter two being with CBS.
  • Any way I can show fair use or the implication thereof - I think it's more likely that would be a subpoena duces tecum, which is for documents, rather than a subpoena for anyone to appear, although usually someone has to interpret on the record what documents mean. If any of the four people I mentioned can do that, then there is no need for a fifth witness.
Hence there may be as many as four subpoenas to appear going out from this side, but if they can do it with just one representative from each plaintiff, they may prefer to do it that way unless new information comes to light. Plus an SDC to get any supporting documents if any exist.

We will see little of this unless either (a) AP or the like say something and/or (b ) it turns up in court documentation or motion practice.
 
Many Thanks, Madame Chief Justice Jespah, as always!


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Questioning is generally open except for relevancy objections. You can't pull a self-incrimination dodge in civil cases, but if anything is asked wherein the question could incriminate anyone in a potential future criminal matter (that could include criminal fraud, sports fans), then a witness could try to plead the Fifth Amendment.

I believe they can liberally also say they can't recall the details, they're not sure, etc.

As far as subpoenas, I would hope their document discovery would be like a FOIA inquiry -- "any and all materials including but not limited to emails, financial records, memoranda, written correspondences etc. which discuss [list of specific subjects, such as "contact with the studios, understandings of studio intent, plans and arrangements to sell merchandise, etc.]. Beyond a point it would be fishing, but if specifically targeted to concerns charged, perhaps not?
 
I believe they can liberally also say they can't recall the details, they're not sure, etc.

As far as subpoenas, I would hope their document discovery would be like a FOIA inquiry -- "any and all materials including but not limited to emails, financial records, memoranda, written correspondences etc. which discuss [list of specific subjects, such as "contact with the studios, understandings of studio intent, plans and arrangements to sell merchandise, etc.]. Beyond a point it would be fishing, but if specifically targeted to concerns charged, perhaps not?
They can absolutely say they don't recall (assuming that's true, of course). Discovery should be pretty broad because it's possible one side or another would not know the specifics. E. g. If I was looking for the memorialization of a conversation, I might ask for notes, memoranda, recorded impressions, etc. If you just ask for notes, you're opening that up for someone legitimately (or maybe just to be a douchecanoe) interpreting that as only meaning written stuff and not dictation.
 
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