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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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dmac said:
What would be the odds that CBS/Paramount abandons this whole lawsuit mess and simply states that you can make all the fan Trek films you wish, just don't post it on any type of electronic/ social media or distribute though the mail.
That would still leave the Trek in the Park untouched.
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Zero, honestly.
 
Back on topic... Peters thinks he doesn't need to pay the piper... In this case he's way off base... He'll pay alright, even if he doesn't want to do so... CBS / Para will see to that, as we all will see as this thing drags on

As for ODDS...

Wonder what the ODDS are in Vegas over this whole mess
Gotta wonder about that sorta thing now
 
Did anyone else see these rules at the Creation website for the upcoming Vegas convention? Maybe this has always been the case at their shows, but in light of the lawsuit, the bolded and italicized section stood out to me.

http://www.creationent.com/dealers.htm

GENERAL RULES FOR LAS VEGAS STAR TREK 50TH ANNIVERSARY CONVENTION: NO VENDOR is allowed to promote any fan film produced Star Trek production in any way or form. Absolutely NO unlicensed merchandise will be allowed to be sold. No vendor can sell photos, photographic images, or photographic posters of the actors present at the convention, either as themselves or in character, without written permission of asponsor@creationent.com. Vendors who receive this permission must have this written proof with them. Actors present themselves, may of course, if they have been approved for a table, sell photos of themselves OUT OF STAR TREK CHARACTER, or character photos purchased from Creation Entertainment. NO UNLICENSED VIDEOS or DVDS may be sold or displayed at the convention. Noise levels at booths must be low and not disturb other vendors. Any questions please write the sponsor address above. THANK YOU for your cooperation in making this show the best ever!
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Harvey said:
Did anyone else see these rules at the Creation website for the upcoming Vegas convention? Maybe this has always been the case at their shows, but in light of the lawsuit, the bolded and italicized section stood out to me.

http://www.creationent.com/dealers.htm
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Looks like 'Star Trek Superfan' Alec Peters won't be attending as he won't be able to show Prelude for the 10,000th time or get an award.
 
Harvey said:
Did anyone else see these rules at the Creation website for the upcoming Vegas convention? Maybe this has always been the case at their shows, but in light of the lawsuit, the bolded and italicized section stood out to me.

http://www.creationent.com/dealers.htm
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I would like to see a thorough crackdown on IP theft at conventions. Some of it is egregious in the extreme.
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It is perhaps easy to see how Peters may have gotten used to the notion that IP can be infringed and stolen with impunity. He certainly spent/spends a lot of time at cons.
 
IP infringement is just rampant at conventions. It'll be interesting to see how hard Creation and CBS will actually come down against infringers -- especially those peddling unlicensed merchandise. Will Cushman get the boot, for example? Artists peddling unlicensed prints? Costume sellers?
 
Harvey said:
IP infringement is just rampant at conventions. It'll be interesting to see how hard Creation and CBS will actually come down against infringers -- especially those peddling unlicensed merchandise. Will Cushman get the boot, for example? Artists peddling unlicensed prints? Costume sellers?
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That's a tough road for IP holders to travel. Conventions are great outlets for them to generate enthusiasm amongst ardent and paying fans, so they have to be very, very careful. I would think they would lean on con organizers first, especially the bigger cons, rather than go after individual vendors. The IP holders have a big stick -restricting access to the stars that generate foot traffic and ticket sales - they can wield effectively if they so choose.
 
urbandefault said:
Creation is an official event, yes? If so I'm not surprised that they will have strict rules regarding IP.
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In previous years, Creation was a lot more open to Alec Peters and Axanar having a table at their events. I attended a convention in San Francisco about a year-and-a-half ago, and Peters had an Axanar table. He was also present at the convention, making the rounds.
 
Ryan Thomas Riddle said:
In previous years, Creation was a lot more open to Alec Peters and Axanar having a table at their events. I attended a convention in San Francisco about a year-and-a-half ago, and Peters had an Axanar table. He was also present at the convention, making the rounds.
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I just looked at the Vegas guest list. It looks like everybody and their brother will be there.

It's gotta be just killing LFIM that he's not an invited "celebrity." :lol:
 
jespah said:
Probably not much - response to the counterclaim is due on the 13th, as I recall.
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I can't wait to see the response to some of the idiotic points in the counterclaim. In relation to the point about getting up at 10pm I'm hoping for "omg! Wtf does this have to do with the lawsuit!" Though I'm sure we'll get the normal "plaintiff does not have facts to confirm or deny do denies"
 
Krandor said:
I can't wait to see the response to some of the idiotic points in the counterclaim. In relation to the point about getting up at 10pm I'm hoping for "omg! Wtf does this have to do with the lawsuit!" Though I'm sure we'll get the normal "plaintiff does not have facts to confirm or deny do denies"
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Jedi_Master said:
I would like to see a thorough crackdown on IP theft at conventions. Some of it is egregious in the extreme
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You're absolutely right, of course, but deep down i wonder if I'd still go if the IP related stuff was limited to officially licenced tie in products and film posters. Although there has been a trend recently for better quality tie in merchandise (Diamond Select, Quantum Mechanix, Anovos), a great majority of it is tat, and the reality is a lot of unlicensed stuff, props, costumes, art, etc is just a lot... better. Unconstrained by licencing departments' eagle eye and often blessed with a greater passion for the project, the fan reproduction market would be a great loss.
Legally though, it's basically indefensible. So we're in a similar situation as fan films - keep your head down and don't overreach and they'll probably look the other way. There are some pretty professional and large scale commercial outfits which don't yet seen to have attached the eye of Sauron(C)(TM) yet, Etsy is full of them.
 
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