Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread
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From what I gather: a little from Column-A and a little from Column-B. No idea if there's a time limit on the distribution deal, or if that's even possible when another entity has the production rights. I'm no expert in any kind of law, much less the realm of IP licencing and copyright.
There is a rumour that they might be heading in a 'Planet Hulk' like direction for Phase 4, with Hulk being the antagonist of the next Avengers movie after Infinity War in line with 'World War Hulk'. It's probably just fan speculation at this point though.
That said, I think Hulk may have built up enough pull with audiences to make them think another solo movie is worth a shot. Time will tell.
I've read they are going to do Planet Hulk as part of Thor Ragnarok.
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Nah, it would be part of the main story.
Possible spoilers at the link...
http://io9.gizmodo.com/thor-ragnarok-may-finally-give-fans-the-planet-hulk-mo-1779632142
Possible spoilers at the link...
http://io9.gizmodo.com/thor-ragnarok-may-finally-give-fans-the-planet-hulk-mo-1779632142
^Don't want to spoil myself, so I'll refrain from reading that.
I will say though that the thing with 'World War Hulk' is that it needs to be predicated on the premise that Hulk is *really* pissed off at Earth in general and his former friends in particular. If he shows up in the new Thor under Loki's power or otherwise stranded off-world when Thor runs across him, it's hard to see how that could turn to such a specific a grievance.
The benign neglect of not rescuing him because they didn't know he was abducted (and has a history of disappearing off on his own) doesn't seem sufficient. It'd need another step along the way, which in the comics was his finding happiness for a time, only for to to be rather viciously ripped away by the people or peoples of Earth.
Finding that contentment would probably require said 'Planet Hulk' solo movie to properly establish. Also, timing is an issue. They're going to need him back for 'Infinity Wars', so they really can't do 'Planet Hulk' before then. Seems to me the logical structure would be setting him adrift again at the end of Thor 3, bringing him back for Infinity War only to be exiled again afterwards, followed by 'Planet Hulk' somewhere in phase 4, followed by 'Avengers: World War Hulk'. Or something along those lines.
I will say though that the thing with 'World War Hulk' is that it needs to be predicated on the premise that Hulk is *really* pissed off at Earth in general and his former friends in particular. If he shows up in the new Thor under Loki's power or otherwise stranded off-world when Thor runs across him, it's hard to see how that could turn to such a specific a grievance.
The benign neglect of not rescuing him because they didn't know he was abducted (and has a history of disappearing off on his own) doesn't seem sufficient. It'd need another step along the way, which in the comics was his finding happiness for a time, only for to to be rather viciously ripped away by the people or peoples of Earth.
Finding that contentment would probably require said 'Planet Hulk' solo movie to properly establish. Also, timing is an issue. They're going to need him back for 'Infinity Wars', so they really can't do 'Planet Hulk' before then. Seems to me the logical structure would be setting him adrift again at the end of Thor 3, bringing him back for Infinity War only to be exiled again afterwards, followed by 'Planet Hulk' somewhere in phase 4, followed by 'Avengers: World War Hulk'. Or something along those lines.
You're assuming that they're interested in doing Planet Hulk as a setup for World War Hulk, but that's not necessarily the case.
They may simply adapt parts of Planet Hulk with no intention of doing World War Hulk at all. After all, it is a somewhat problematic storyline, as you said.
Hulk no need puny story arc!
Possibly. Though to my way of thinking: what's the point of Planet Hulk without World War Hulk? The one sort of goes with the other. Indeed, it's kind of the point of the other since where the hell else do you go with the character once he's found happiness? You either leave him on that planet forever and forget about him, or tear it all down.
Don't get me wrong, they *could* just leave him there if they were done with the character for a while, but WWH would always be a lingering possibility on the horizon.
Of course as you say this is all assuming the 'Planet Hulk' rumours are indeed true. I don't presume this to be the case, just speculating on the possible scenario. Seems like the logical way to go though. Just hope the people at Disney don't spot that they pretty much already made this movie and it was a flop.
Possibly. Though to my way of thinking: what's the point of Planet Hulk without World War Hulk? The one sort of goes with the other. Indeed, it's kind of the point of the other since where the hell else do you go with the character once he's found happiness? You either leave him on that planet forever and forget about him, or tear it all down.
Don't get me wrong, they *could* just leave him there if they were done with the character for a while, but WWH would always be a lingering possibility on the horizon.
Of course as you say this is all assuming the 'Planet Hulk' rumours are indeed true. I don't presume this to be the case, just speculating on the possible scenario. Seems like the logical way to go though. Just hope the people at Disney don't spot that they pretty much already made this movie and it was a flop.
I'm guessing that the point would be to show the Hulk in awesome gladiator matches against alien monsters. That would probably be more or less the extent of the adaptation, with maybe little hints here or there to leave some possibilities open in the future.
So I am nearly finally up to date with all the Marvel films, just got Ant Man and Civil War to watch (bet I have missed being able to watch civil war at the Cinema now though 
) I am glad that I watched Guardians of the galaxy in my re-watch becuase while it does not have a direct link to the films so far Thor mentioned at the end of Ulton that 4 stones had appeared so it included guardians one.
The only thing I am still stuck on is how Hydra got a hold of loki's sceptre (and the mind gem) in the first place? did natasha after closing the portal in Avengers Assemble just leave it lying around or did I miss the explanation as to why it ended up in hydra's hands?
) I am glad that I watched Guardians of the galaxy in my re-watch becuase while it does not have a direct link to the films so far Thor mentioned at the end of Ulton that 4 stones had appeared so it included guardians one.The only thing I am still stuck on is how Hydra got a hold of loki's sceptre (and the mind gem) in the first place? did natasha after closing the portal in Avengers Assemble just leave it lying around or did I miss the explanation as to why it ended up in hydra's hands?
So I am nearly finally up to date with all the Marvel films, just got Ant Man and Civil War to watch (bet I have missed being able to watch civil war at the Cinema now though
The only thing I am still stuck on is how Hydra got a hold of loki's sceptre (and the mind gem) in the first place? did natasha after closing the portal in Avengers Assemble just leave it lying around or did I miss the explanation as to why it ended up in hydra's hands?
The Sceptre wasn't held by the Avengers after Avengers 1. The group split up and everyone went their own ways, so the sceptre, of course, went to SHIELD for safekeeping. As per The Winter Soldier, SHIELD wasn't actually all that safe.
If that was the case I am surprised that Thor was willing to allow the sceptre to stay in the hands of shield, since at the end of Ulton he only left it with Vision only because the thought that he was a worthy person.
I know that they split the Tesseract up from the Aiether so that 2 infinity gems were not in the same place but why did they not give the collecter the sceptre as shield hardly proved themselves worthy since fury was prepared to make weapons using the tesseract.
Just does not make sense to me that they would have done that. but it's a explanation regardless thanks.
Perhaps Thor didn't realize at that time the level of power the sceptre held or that it held an Infinity Gem.
He also saw the 4 stones in his vision.
I don't think Thor knew what an infinity stone was. That's why he went to the Norn's well in Norway. He might have known of them, but not really known them to see them. Cap said that the scepter was powered by the Tessaract and Fury said no, but Thor wasn't there for that and he might not have believed otherwise at the time.
At the time The Avengers ended, Thor had no reason to mistrust SHIELD. After all, they had fought valiantly by his side on two occasions, and the Son of Coul had earned a place in Valhalla through his warrior's sacrifice (or so he thought). It was only later that SHIELD turned out to have been infiltrated by HYDRA, and the scepter probably fell into their hands during the HYDRA raids on SHIELD's secure storage facilities that we saw in late season 1 of Agents of SHIELD (along with a lot of other sensitive technologies and materials). After that, Thor reassembled the Avengers offscreen to help him hunt down the scepter, a hunt that culminated in the opening sequence of AoU. At that point, he intended to take the scepter back to Asgard, but he let Tony study it for a few days, and all hell broke loose as a result. So it was as a result of both SHIELD's and Stark's failures to handle the scepter responsibly, as well as Thor's discovery of just what the scepter was, that he decided to place the stone within the Vision.
I suppose I underestimated the importance of Coulson's 'death' on Thor in the Avengers adding that back into the equation I can see how Thor decided to leave the scepter with shield.
I don't know why but I always assumed it was Captain America who reassembled them to take out the assorted Hydra bases but Thor doing it to get back the scepter makes sense too.
Thank you all for answering my 'silly questions'
I don't know why but I always assumed it was Captain America who reassembled them to take out the assorted Hydra bases but Thor doing it to get back the scepter makes sense too.
Thank you all for answering my 'silly questions'