I noticed that right away as well. Not much of a surprise considering the kind of damage an axe does and this is a family show on network TV.
Agents of SHIELD: Season 3 - Discussion (SPOILERS LIKELY)
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Yep. I made the connection pretty fast. A clever use of the original comics lore.
Chloe Bennet says Marvel movies "don't seem to care" about Agents of SHIELD
She has a point. I've thought that for ages, although I don't expect massive crossovers, if the three different aspects of the MCU (movies, TV, Netflix shows) never reference each other, then sometimes you have to wonder what the point is.
She has a point. I've thought that for ages, although I don't expect massive crossovers, if the three different aspects of the MCU (movies, TV, Netflix shows) never reference each other, then sometimes you have to wonder what the point is.
I didn't see it at a quick glance but AoS is reported to be moving to 10PM and might allow for some darker content.
There is actually *some* connection in the other direction, albeit tiny and via secondary media (note the ticker.) But as far as the movies are concerned, yeah, they don't really acknowledge the TV shows at all.
I think part of that has to do with the differing development schedules. Movie scripts are written years in advance, so by the time they've shot something, a whole season or two of material has been made in TV land. It's a lot harder to co-ordinate TV-to-movie than the other way around. Movie-to-TV is fairly simple since they have a good 6-12 months warning of what's coming and when, so they can line it up. The TV people don't necessarily know what they'll be doing exactly in a year or two.
That all said, it would be nice if they made more of an effort to refer to past events. At the very least the terrigen outbreak should have been directly referenced...unless they're claiming the Avengers were aware exactly where all of these new enhanced people were coming from.
I think part of that has to do with the differing development schedules. Movie scripts are written years in advance, so by the time they've shot something, a whole season or two of material has been made in TV land. It's a lot harder to co-ordinate TV-to-movie than the other way around. Movie-to-TV is fairly simple since they have a good 6-12 months warning of what's coming and when, so they can line it up. The TV people don't necessarily know what they'll be doing exactly in a year or two.
That all said, it would be nice if they made more of an effort to refer to past events. At the very least the terrigen outbreak should have been directly referenced...unless they're claiming the Avengers were aware exactly where all of these new enhanced people were coming from.
Anyone else notice how Lincoln and Daisy's goodbye paralleled Cap and Peggy's in The First Avenger?
After he puts two shots through the first soldier, he pivots and cuts the throat of the one behind him, but they keep Mac in focus so you only see the swing and the creature going down.
Meanwhile Hive gets to strip the skin off of people on screen.
Apparently there is some infighting between Kevin Feige (the film side) and Isaac Perlmutter (the TV side) which is the reason for it.
I noticed that as well.
I just got caught up, really enjoyed the the season finale. The shell game of "whose got the necklace" was a nice touch. I can't say I was overly shocked at who ended up with the necklace. Lincoln was one of my two guesses. He followed the template set up by Triplett. Show up at the last of a season, work alongside the team for nearly a whole other season...die. Which means if John Hannah's character comes back he's a candidate for death next.
I'd like to believe that we've seen the last of Grant Ward/Hive but that LMD is just itching to be Ward. Did Dalton sign some 4year contract that has to be honored?
Show jumps 6months...real world that could line us up with Dr.Strange.
Things I'd like to see answered in the first few episodes of next year.
1-Who is the new Director
2-Daisy/Quake being brought back into the fold and her rouge run explained
3-Who the LMD is?
4-Status of Hydra
5-Return of Bobbi and Lance
6-Return of Deathlok
7-What affect the Sokovia Accords are having on ATCU/SHIELD, resurrection of SHIELD
8-Who will be the season arching foe?
The parallel to the first Captain America movie was unintentional...
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/05/18/agents-shield-finale-deaths-season-4-spoilers
And Brett Dalton's done...
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/05/18/agents-shield-hive-ward-death-brett-dalton
Music to my ears!
While Dalton did well as Hive, he was always the weakest link among the cast and I've been wanting Ward gone for a long time.
I like the subversiveness of what they did with the Ward character. He was the most conventional "hero" figure in the cast -- the young, good-looking, athletic white male, the fairly bland and whitebread one that you'd expect to be the star and the hero like in most shows. And they spent most of a season building up that expectation, and then bam! He's the worst villain of them all.
Exactly. As introduced, he was practically a cliche: the darkly handsome, lone-wolf agent who doesn't play well with others, etc. ("I work alone.") Throw in some will-they-or-won't-they sexual tension between him and the young female ingenue, and we seemed to be heading down a very well-worn path.
Then . . .surprise!
At comicon, One of them, Ian or Liz, says that their audition script, to get their part on the show, was a segment from the Ward revealing he's Hydra episode, where they were running out of air in the survival pod.
It's entirely possible that "Ward is Hydra", was the first thing they thought up, and hung the rest of the show off that eventual shocking unmasking.
It's entirely possible that "Ward is Hydra", was the first thing they thought up, and hung the rest of the show off that eventual shocking unmasking.
They knew the TWS twist either before the pilot or just after - some time before the series got picked up, regardless. And, as soon as they learned that twist, they said they knew a character had to betray them.
Well it was built around The Winter Soldier and Hydra being within the SHIELD so they had to have someone in mind. The network season just didn't match the movie release so the show still suffers from the stagger it gave up at the start compared to a Flash which could take off running hard.
I liked how Daisy/Quake refined her powers to be able to do that ground to rooftop leap- reminded me a bit of Neo.
One question- if that warhead was nuclear, wouldn't that destroy instead of dissipate?
One question- if that warhead was nuclear, wouldn't that destroy instead of dissipate?
And then the young female ingenue (who's half-Chinese to boot) turns out to be essentially the real core character of the show, making it even more subversive.
