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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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Ok playbill not a flyer.
It would have been cheaper if it was only a flyer. For that, you pay the cost of printing. As an ad on the back of a playbill, you're paying a profit-surcharge to support the playbill's production as well as covering the cost of printing that page.
 
Ok playbill not a flyer. Who said she worked for the studio or production?

And lets look at all the things she didn't call out. She didn't say that it wasn't an advertisment for Valkyrie Studios. Neither she nor Alec said that the studio wasn't available for rent. They didn't say that Curtis Strong isn't Alec's associate from back in the propwork days. So while they disagree with it being called a flyer, it is what it looks to be. The Ares Studio is being offered for rent under a different name.

Exactly. Two obvious question that come to my mind then.........1) why did she post this in the first place? and 2) why make a denial comment that seems to defy common sense and fails to dispel/disprove the obvious? (almost seems as if it was forced/possibly out of character)
 
Ok, so their denial that an ad was distributed at SciFest is

1. it wasn't a handout, it was on something given to EVERYONE. But not a handout.
2. The person who posted the picture didn't personally hand it out, so even though no one said she did, its proof of bad journalism.

On the contrary, it is proof of even more premeditation than simply handing it out. Way to go with the lawsuit pileon!

I swear, they really believe no one on the entire earth has a neuron between them.
This seems to be a reply to 1701News's article by @Michael Hinman. That article states, "An image of the flyer was shared on a social media page run by an Axanar crewmember...". So in this case Crysstal saying, "Not a flyer. I was not handing them out. I do not work for this studio. I am not a crewmember of any production associated in any way." is probably accurate.

But it still reads like a hostage being forced to read a letter.

Neil
 
If there was bad reporting on the flyer/playbill why doesn't Alec give his side of the story? He already has said the studio would be rented out and this is an ad of some type to rent the studio. Not sure what could be being reported badly but if so he should put out his version instead of attacking people.

I think it's exactly what it looks like.
 
1. Pretty sure Crysstal is "Diana 2."

2. Do you ever stop??? And no comments about being an effing battleship or a train or whatever smart aleck comment you're going to make.

No... I genuinely thought he was somehow involved with all three at the same time. i was, therefore, surprised he was getting any work done
 
Hmmmm............(regarding the flyer of 'Valkyrie Studios'). At this point, whatever this is and wherever it was found are irrelevant. It just proves certain speculation was right on the money and gives Lord Alec a little more rope (and C/P more ammunition) to hang himself with............

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The back of a Playbill is an ad. The ad was purchased by the company ran by your boyfriend.

You posted said ad on the Internet. The ad is for a property that was remodeled with funds donated by others funds meant to refurbish the property AND make a Star Trek themed film. The property had ZERO value until it was remodeled. The film has not been made.
The property will now be rented out and the proceeds will go to a for - profit business.


However, the take away you and your boyfriend have is....... folks didn't report the story properly.

Sorry ma'am no one would have been any less upset had they known that the "flyer" was the back of a Playbill. :)
 
This seems to be a reply to 1701News's article by @Michael Hinman. That article states, "An image of the flyer was shared on a social media page run by an Axanar crewmember...". So in this case Crysstal saying, "Not a flyer. I was not handing them out. I do not work for this studio. I am not a crewmember of any production associated in any way." is probably accurate.

But it still reads like a hostage being forced to read a letter.

Neil

Ok, thanks. I hear that a famous admiral had an expression for this: "they're shooting spitwads at a battleship".
 
Just on a lark, I looked up "Crysstal Hubbard" on IMDB. Seems she is writer, executive producer, director, and lead actress playing "Kara El / Belinda Carrington Danvers" in a three episode mini-series "Girl Unburdened". This might sound like a dumb question, but did she sign a licensing agreement with DC Comics to do a Supergirl show?????
 
Just on a lark, I looked up "Crysstal Hubbard" on IMDB. Seems she is writer, executive producer, director, and lead actress playing "Kara El / Belinda Carrington Danvers" in a three episode mini-series "Girl Unburdened". This might sound like a dumb question, but did she sign a licensing agreement with DC Comics to do a Supergirl show?????

I do feel it is not appropriate to be examining the lives of companions of the Axanar principals here. Even if it is intellectually somehow linkable in some detail, it seems wrong to go fishing. YMMV but I personally think it better to let this sort of subthread rest.
 
Just on a lark, I looked up "Crysstal Hubbard" on IMDB. Seems she is writer, executive producer, director, and lead actress playing "Kara El / Belinda Carrington Danvers" in a three episode mini-series "Girl Unburdened". This might sound like a dumb question, but did she sign a licensing agreement with DC Comics to do a Supergirl show?????
Birds of a Feather? For all we know, they met because Alec was trying to cast a replacement for the part of 'Sonya Alexander' (at some point even Alec Peters probably realized Kate Vernon wouldn't be returning to reprise her 'Prelude to Axanar' role); and she answered the call.:whistle::lol:;)
 
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Some interesting tidbits about SCI-FEST LA: The Los Angeles Science Fiction One-Act Play Festival, on whose playbill Axanar advertised its "new" Valkyrie Studios:
  • They are screening Prelude to Axanar on May 21 (a bargain at only $15 for a slate of short films)
  • Note the description of Prelude as "the most successful Star Trek fan film in history, garnering 47 film festival awards around the world. The film is so good, that Paramount and CBS have tried to shut it down because Star Trek fans like it TOO much!"
  • According to their website, Alec Peters looks like he's attending the screening — "meet the filmmakers and hear the stories behind these mini-masterpieces!" http://www.sci-fest.com/#!short-films/m7wwv
Axanar spokesman Mike Bawden explained the context of the playbill ad like this:
I went to Sci-Fest with Alec and his girlfriend on Friday evening (cool concept, a sci-fi, one-act play festival) and we discussed the ad on the back of the playbill.
The festival had a big donor back out at the last minute and it's my understanding that
Alec and a number of other people tried to step in and help provide funds so the festival could run. I believe the ad on the back-page was offered as a "thank you" for the help, but I'm not sure whether that was gratis or part of a sponsorship.
 
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Some interesting tidbits about SCI-FEST LA: The Los Angeles Science Fiction One-Act Play Festival, on whose playbill Axanar advertised its "new" Valkyrie Studios:
  • They are screening Prelude to Axanar on May 21 (a bargain at only $15 for a slate of short films)
  • Note the description of Prelude as "the most successful Star Trek fan film in history, garnering 47 film festival awards around the world. The film is so good, that Paramount and CBS have tried to shut it down because Star Trek fans like it TOO much!"
  • According to their website, Alec Peters looks like he's attending the screening — "meet the filmmakers and hear the stories behind these mini-masterpieces!" http://www.sci-fest.com/#!short-films/m7wwv
Axanar spokesman Mike Bawden explained the context of the playbill ad like this:
I went to Sci-Fest with Alec and his girlfriend on Friday evening (cool concept, a sci-fi, one-act play festival) and we discussed the ad on the back of the playbill.
The festival had a big donor back out at the last minute and it's my understanding that
Alec and a number of other people tried to step in and help provide funds so the festival could run. I believe the ad on the back-page was offered as a "thank you" for the help, but I'm not sure whether that was gratis or part of a sponsorship.

Oh, well if he stepped in at the last minute... To be fair, I can't fault him for that
 
[EDIT: Do to new information showing up further down the thread that seems to confirm an animosity now existing between the defendant and Mr. McIntosh I am at this time dismissing what I've written here -- without prejudice :lol:]
FYI, Terry McIntosh has left Axanar Productions. He has a post on Facebook about it. Glad he finally had some sense to leave.
That does seem like a prudent move doesn't it. My own first thought was that this separation from the production company might be 'doe' tactical rather than separating from being in business with the defendant. The same way the studio, in name if not in future fact, is in process of being separated from the production, with donations being returned to the recipient 'proper'. I mean, Mr. McIntosh has been seen to be unequivocally supportive and seemingly on the same page and track as the defendant in all things which makes an actual coming to senses seem, at least to me at this time, unlikely. And while I think separating from the production to be legally prudent in light of Mr. McIntosh possibly being up there at the top of the list of possible does, I'm more inclined to lean toward the Leaving being a legal tactic with plans to continue to be part of the possible restructuring plans as per, well, W&S & the defendant. Which 'could' in my imaginings see them remaining business partners in whatever form the restructured plans take for the defendant as producer of filmed stuff in a possible re-constructed retooled renamed different Production company, that maybe also expects (hopes if the court pleases) to include the contested film in some version. So right now I am hesitant to be confident that the separating from the production company to be indicative of an actual separation from being in business with the defendant.

Anyway, those were my first thoughts when I read your post. :lol:
 
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That does seem like a prudent move doesn't it. My own first thought was that this separation from the production company might be 'doe' tactical rather than separating from business with the defendant. The same way the studio, in name if not in future fact, is in process of being separated from the production, with donations being returned to the recipient 'proper'. I mean, Mr. McIntosh has been seen to be unequivocally supportive and seemingly on the same page and track as the defendant in all things which makes an actual coming to senses seem, at least to me at this time, unlikely. And while I think separating from the production to be legally prudent in light of Mr. McIntosh possibly being up there at the top of the list of possible does, I'm more inclined to lean toward the Leaving being a legal tactic with plans to continue to be part of the possible restructuring plans as per, well, W&S & the defendant. Which 'could' in my imaginings see them remaining business partners in whatever form the restructured plans take for the defendant as producer of filmed stuff in a possible re-constructed retooled renamed different Production company, that maybe also expects (hopes if the court pleases) to include the contested film in some version. So right now I am hesitant to be confident that the separating from the production company to be indicative of an actual separation from being in business with the defendant.

Anyway, those were my first thoughts when I read your post. :lol:

I agree...

I wonder if he has "left" to be head of this new firm. When the Axanar project is closed up by the good Judge, Terry "sells" the new firm to Alec - leaving Peters with a studio
 
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