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Barclay Stops the Banishment from the Garden of Eden

If you could go back in time and try to talk Eve out of eating from the forbidden fruit, would you?

  • yes

    Votes: 2 28.6%
  • no

    Votes: 5 71.4%

  • Total voters
    7
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Look, @5billionof5billion, you have to decide whether you want to discuss your religious convictions or whether you want to post a fan fiction story. If it's the former, you can do that in Miscellaneous but not here. Frankly, I feel like this is a rather thinly veiled attempt to rile up people disguised as fan fiction so I'll keep an eye on it.



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This is not an appropriate response to someone in this forum. Attack the post, not the poster. Please, don't do it again.
 
To be honest I actually had a story idea years ago where Captain Kirk and crew are the ones who get Eve to eat the forbidden fruit. I think such a story could be done. It would have to be done in a way that maintains enough science to allow for our knowledge of evolution, but also not completely alienate religious viewers.

Perhaps the crew travels back in time on accident or whatever. They discover an experiment being conducted by some unknown entity. There is a male and female being confined in a garden spot on ancient earth. Knowing Kirk he'd probably bed Eve at some point (ok sorry I just couldn't resist). I think such a story could be done. You just have to keep it vague enough for either side to read into it what they want.

Though it might be more interesting to have the story take place on an alien planet.
 
To be honest I actually had a story idea years ago where Captain Kirk and crew are the ones who get Eve to eat the forbidden fruit. I think such a story could be done. It would have to be done in a way that maintains enough science to allow for our knowledge of evolution, but also not completely alienate religious viewers.

Perhaps the crew travels back in time on accident or whatever. They discover an experiment being conducted by some unknown entity. There is a male and female being confined in a garden spot on ancient earth. Knowing Kirk he'd probably bed Eve at some point (ok sorry I just couldn't resist). I think such a story could be done. You just have to keep it vague enough for either side to read into it what they want.

Though it might be more interesting to have the story take place on an alien planet.
What if the Enterprise instruments are not operational and Kirk and crew were not aware they traveled back in time? And did what they did?
 
Maybe it could resolve the paradox about how seven billion people came to exist from just two, when the Bible takes a very disapproving stance against incest.
 
Look, @5billionof5billion, you have to decide whether you want to discuss your religious convictions or whether you want to post a fan fiction story. If it's the former, you can do that in Miscellaneous but not here. Frankly, I feel like this is a rather thinly veiled attempt to rile up people disguised as fan fiction so I'll keep an eye on it.




This is not an appropriate response to someone in this forum. Attack the post, not the poster. Please, don't do it again.

Okay, but going all the way to Miscellaneous to respond to an attack from someone does get awkward. Can we please have it run both ways where people can't attack me either? Don't worry. I'll post a challenge to atheists eventually on the miscellaneous board.

It's really nothing more than attempt to get a story printed in the Star Trek fan magazine.
God bless, Jason Irelan
 
There was a flash of light, and he was gone.

"Why do you want a male and a female?" asked Odo.

"Because we're going back before they disobey the Lord's commandment," I said, "And they won't have anything on but will feel no shame because the curse won't happen yet, and it would be more appropriate if a female shapeshifter were to change into modest clothes for the first human female when I'm talking to her when the first male's not with her. It'll be unnerving because this will be the first time they see an extraterrestrial, but they'll get over it. Now if Data's there, whoever comes along will have to be prepared to deal with him. He can be easygoing, but he can also be stubborn sometimes."

After a few moments, Odo said he could help, and I asked him to get a female shapeshifter, and we were on our way.

Before we were aboard the Jem'Hadar ship, I said, "I know what founder shapeshifters look like in their original liquid state, so please try to get plenty of rest. Data doesn't require rest, and I'd rather not have you too tired to deal with him if he's there. Odo, I know it's irritated you in the past when people would ask you to turn into different creatures or objects; but there's one creature from Earth that I wouldn't mind seeing and holding; and that's a garter snake; but I don't need you to spend too much time as one if it'll rob you of your rest. I want you well rested when we get to the planet where the Guardian is. Speaking of snakes, here's something else that I thought would be appropriate in regards to snakes when I try to talk Eve out of eating from the fruit after she was lied to. According to Scriptures it was a serpent telling the lies when I'm pretty sure it was the devil." I told him my idea before we beamed aboard the Jem'Hadar ship.

We were on our way to the worm hole. When we weren't that far from the wormhole, the runabout was released from the ship; and after going through the wormhole, we were on our way.

I told them of my plans for dealing with anyone guarding the time portal; and I asked them to turn into air at first, so that I could just say things to them about what happened in Earth's history and casually mention how many wars could be avoided if someone went back and talked the first female out of eating from that forbidden fruit. I told them after that happened to wait a few seconds and make sure I was clear away from them and to turn into a poisonous gas that would knock anyone unconscious for a couple hours; and I told them that if Data was there, they could change back into air; and I would ask the Guardian to shift to a random period of time on any planet and one of them make a hand appear and use it to take Data's com badge and throw it through the Guardian. I told them about the off switch on Data.
 
Look, @5billionof5billion, you have to decide whether you want to discuss your religious convictions or whether you want to post a fan fiction story. If it's the former, you can do that in Miscellaneous but not here. Frankly, I feel like this is a rather thinly veiled attempt to rile up people disguised as fan fiction so I'll keep an eye on it.




This is not an appropriate response to someone in this forum. Attack the post, not the poster. Please, don't do it again.
Look, @5billionof5billion, you have to decide whether you want to discuss your religious convictions or whether you want to post a fan fiction story. If it's the former, you can do that in Miscellaneous but not here. Frankly, I feel like this is a rather thinly veiled attempt to rile up people disguised as fan fiction so I'll keep an eye on it.

This is not an appropriate response to someone in this forum. Attack the post, not the poster. Please, don't do it again.

What do you mean by Miscellaneous? I saw Future of Trek, Trek Gaming, Trek Literature, and Trek Tech in the Miscellaneous departments. Which one should I go to in order to discuss religious convictions.
God bless, Jason Irelan
 
Don't worry. I'll post a challenge to atheists eventually on the miscellaneous board.
That should be interesting.

It's really nothing more than attempt to get a story printed in the Star Trek fan magazine.
God bless, Jason Irelan
Okay, here's some constructive feedback, as politely as I can manage: This whole thing needs massive amounts of editing. And if you expect to have it published, I suggest self-publishing, because I can't think of anyone who would consider this any sort of readable Star Trek story in its current state.
 
I suggest self-publishing, because I can't think of anyone who would consider this any sort of readable Star Trek story in its current state.
I'm not sure you can self-publish Star Trek fanfic due to the legalities of licensing. Posting on boards such as this is one thing, as you're not making money from it.
 
Well, you can if you're not making money. Fanzines have been around for decades; in fact, the first one, Spockanalia, was originally published while Star Trek was still in production (sometime in 1967, if memory serves) - and Gene Roddenberry liked it.

But if the person above wants to have that stuff professionally published in an authorized magazine or anthology, it has to go through extensive rewriting... like about 99.9% of it.
 
Whether you make money or not is immaterial to the question of a required license agreement. And by "not making money" doesn't mean "sell at a price set to break even". If you make ANY money, even at a huge net loss, it still falls into the category of financial benefit, one of the rules looked at when determining copyright infringement.
 
That should be interesting.


Okay, here's some constructive feedback, as politely as I can manage: This whole thing needs massive amounts of editing. And if you expect to have it published, I suggest self-publishing, because I can't think of anyone who would consider this any sort of readable Star Trek story in its current state.
Well then I'll just finish it for fun. It's a pretty long story, so it'll probably take me a few days. There's a reason I'm irritated by what was said by the devil in that encounter, and it'll come out in the end. You'll just have to wait and see.
God bless, Jason Irelan
 
That should be interesting.


Okay, here's some constructive feedback, as politely as I can manage: This whole thing needs massive amounts of editing. And if you expect to have it published, I suggest self-publishing, because I can't think of anyone who would consider this any sort of readable Star Trek story in its current state.
I've got a few other stories that are nothing more than holodeck stories that I'd like to get printed as well. They're nothing more than holodeck stories; and to put it another way, I need money in order to buy Star Trek books; and I can't do that if I can't get some kind of income.
God bless, Jason Irelan
 
We eventually arrived to the planet with the Guardian of Forever, and there were two humans and Data.

"What are you doing here?" asked Data.

"I'm on a leave of absence from Starfleet," I said, "And I wanted to see this time portal."

The android was keeping an eye on me, and I aimed a tricorder at it to try to avoid suspicion.

"You gotta kinda wonder about what the origin of Earth was since there are people who say God's not real and that we evolved from lower life forms instead of descending from the first two people that the Bible says God formed. Guardian, can you either show two apes mating and producing a missing link between and them whether it was the cro mignon or something else or having two other creatures mating and producing something else? I've heard it said that the dogs are the descendants of wolves, so another example would be to show a wolf having a litter of dogs after only mating with another wolf. Can you show that happening on Earth with the wolves or the apes?"

"Negative."
 
You're missing the point. You are not legally allowed to profit from Star Trek stories that were not contracted for via an authorized publisher. Back in the days of print 'zines, the only money that was exchanged was to pay for the costs of paper, ink, and postage (there were no personal computers or photocopiers back then, so these fanzines were either run off on a Xerox/Gestetner, or sent to a printer).

The only way you could possibly make your stories available for others to read would be to post them on one of the fanfiction sites (with a disclaimer that you don't own Star Trek or any of its characters and you have no intent to infringe on copyright)... and you won't be paid so much as a counterfeit penny.

If you want to make money from writing, I suggest you try something original, or see if there are any authorized Star Trek publishers looking for new writers.
 
You're missing the point. You are not legally allowed to profit from Star Trek stories that were not contracted for via an authorized publisher. Back in the days of print 'zines, the only money that was exchanged was to pay for the costs of paper, ink, and postage (there were no personal computers or photocopiers back then, so these fanzines were either run off on a Xerox/Gestetner, or sent to a printer).

The only way you could possibly make your stories available for others to read would be to post them on one of the fanfiction sites (with a disclaimer that you don't own Star Trek or any of its characters and you have no intent to infringe on copyright)... and you won't be paid so much as a counterfeit penny.

If you want to make money from writing, I suggest you try something original, or see if there are any authorized Star Trek publishers looking for new writers.
Do you mean like that Valjiir Continuum that you always put a link to? I have to do something to earn money. I've heard they're starting the Star Trek: Strange New World Anthologies again that I'm thinking about getting, but I can't get it without money, and I've also read that DS9 books have been relaunched in 2014, but I can't buy them without money.
God bless, Jason Irelan
 
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