STC: To Boldly Indiegogo

[BoredShipCapt'n]

When episode 5 came out, it was the same day when Doctor Who returned with a new season and everyone on my friends list was excited about that, while I was really impatient to finally get to see the episode. I had only discovered it in August, so the wait had only been four weeks but still.


I did that. It makes me more determined.

If we make it indeed to 160.000 and if one episode is about 80.000 then that would mean two more episodes. That isn't bad?

Does anyone know how it would work to extend it? It was said in a comment on the page that they plan to extend it to the end of May. But is that possible just like that? By justs switching the date on the page? I have a friend who has been ill and I don't want to bother her this week too much so if I knew there is more time...

I just went searching for that and found a support page that said 60 days is the absolute maximum. So unless I'm missing something, maybe they can't.

EDIT: Wait. Although they can't extend the deadline, there's a feature called "InDemand" that enables them to keep receiving funds after the deadline. Apart from nomenclature, the difference escapes me.

 

[Warped9]

Part of this drive is to pay for Ep. 7's post production so I don't know if they can get two more full episodes out of it if they make it to $160,000. If they can manage it then that would give us Eps. 7-9 with four planned episodes remaining to finish the run.

Unless someone's dear old aunt, uncle, grandparent or whatever suddenly coughs up about four hundred grand available from the inheritance or someone wins a lottery then it means another (and likely more than one) funding drive to finish things off. I don't know if that would be even possible with the way the climate stands now.


A question I had earlier upthread went unanswered. We know of STC's current funding drive trouble, and now Horizon's aborted Kickstarter, but were any other Trek fan productions also in the midst of a funding drive and experiencing similar problems?

 

[BoredShipCapt'n]

Part of this drive is to pay for Ep. 7's post production so I don't know if they can get two more full episodes out of it if they make it to $160,000. If they can manage it then that would give us Eps. 7-9 with four planned episodes remaining to finish the run.

Unless someone's dear old aunt, uncle, grandparent or whatever suddenly coughs up about four hundred grand available from the inheritance or someone wins a lottery then it means another (and likely more than one) funding drive to finish things off. I don't know if that would be even possible with the way the climate stands now.


A question I had earlier upthread went unanswered. We know of STC's current funding drive trouble, and now Horizon's aborted Kickstarter, but were any other Trek fan productions also in the midst of a funding drive and experiencing similar problems?

I don't think any others have started funding drives since the suit was filed.

 

[Warped9]

I don't think any others have started funding drives since the suit was filed.

And I doubt anyone is seriously considering trying now. Despite the date on the calendar it's cold outside and no one wants to stick their nose out the door.

The Axanar lawsuit might have effectively smothered Trek fan funding, at least for now. By being such a dumbass AP might have just handed CBS' unspoken wish on a silver platter

 

[GSchnitzer]

We are not currently running any crowdfunding campaigns. But I will mention that our first seven episodes were produced and released without the benefit of crowdfunding--just the contribution of producers, cast, and crew. We didn't run our first crowdfunding campaign until October of 2012.

 

[Danlav05]

A question I had earlier upthread went unanswered. We know of STC's current funding drive trouble, and now Horizon's aborted Kickstarter, but were any other Trek fan productions also in the midst of a funding drive and experiencing similar problems?

I guess this was inevitable, and we probably knew that when Axanar's lawsuit came up at the end of last year. I doubt people will dare try big-money drives after Horizon, we've been allowed to play in this sandpit for so long, I think with the way things were going filmmakers felt they wanted to 'look' more professional but of course that has a cost.

Starship Exeter and New Voyages ran in the late 00s with NO fundraising drives for the first few episodes and at the time that was the best quality you could get, but times have changed. Of Gods and men looks like a fan film but the cast /writers/director were all industry professionals who had made Trek for Paramount.

Alec Peters may have made things worse with his behaviour but with the new show coming on was it inevitable? Or did he force CBS' hand into watching things closer when they previously turned a blind eye? None of the shows are safe, especially the ones with fundraisers. I think we've taken things for granted for years now.

Yes I always have preferred NV for various reasons but I applaud Continues for their minutely acurate recreation of the 60s show, not an easy thing to do

 

[Warped9]

Wow. The needle has barely moved since yesterday as if things have essentially stalled. What the hell is going on?

 

[BoredShipCapt'n]

Other shoe. People are waiting for another shoe until they hear different.

 

[Newnham]

I think that, perhaps, it was a bad time for STC to do this... I'm no longer contributing to crowdfunding, well, fan made productions anyway.. I did for a company producing stock footage for film-makers.

 

[BoredShipCapt'n]

It was a bad time... I have to think, if this isn't the end of fan film crowdfunding, it's the low point. In a year or so things will get better, if things still exist.

 

[Newnham]

I'm not as confident.. I think there will still be fan made productions.. There can't not be. But crowd funding will be out as a method of financing them. People won't trust the idea.

 

[Phoenix219]

STC should be immune to all of this, though - they have a great track record, don't waste any funds, and put out what they promise. Its a very transparent production, and shouldn't instill any doubt or fear in anyone. This is bothersome.

 

[Newnham]

but they aren't immune, as the amount raised bares testament..

you have to look at it realistically.

 

[Warped9]

Here's the thing. We don't really know whether crowdfunding was the issue with CBS. The real issue could be misuse of the funds raised and/or the fact AP was essentially promoting Axanar as a "professional" feature to rival official productions. And he was blatantly using CBS' IP as a means to profit rather than simply producing his fan project like the vast majority of other fan productions.

Note the only other production asked to halt their production was Horizon who was also embarking on producing a feature. And we don't know whether they were asked to stop because they were about to produce a feature or to spare them getting entangled in the Axanar mess. And we haven't yet heard of any other productions--notably the series like ones--being asked to suspend their works. That might indeed have happened, but if so it's hard to believe no word of that has gotten out.

 

[BoredShipCapt'n]

We are living in the worst of times. Either it'll get better or it's over.

 

[Newnham]

I'm sorry to say that I'm on the pessimistic side of the fence.. Don't get me wrong, I have enjoyed some of what STC have put out, but big budget fan made productions funded by ourselves are in a bit a of a bad way. It's become too... big!

And I'm worried about where my money is going. no matter how transparent things are.. It's my hard earned cash!

 

[Amaris]

We are living in the worst of times. Either it'll get better or it's over.

"The worst of times" is a a matter of perspective. For the crew and backers of Axanar, it is indeed the worst of times. For those of us who do not want CBS/P to lose their hold on Star Trek as an IP, this is simply another day. For STC? Who knows, it could seem like the worst of times, but perhaps there is a brighter day coming for them. We won't know until the air has been cleared of Axanar's folly.

 

[Danlav05]

If the

We are living in the worst of times. Either it'll get better or it's over.

If CBS issue is crowdfunding and the productions need it to survive them I'm afraid it's the final curtain. That's not me being a bitch but that's the reality unless someone like Continues or Farragut can acquire licences.

New Voyages etc managed before Kickstarter but times have changed

 

[Warped9]

It's become too... big!

I don't really buy this. As popular as fan projects are with fans they are microscopic compared to what the audience official productions attract. There is no comparison. They exist in entirely different playing fields.

AP has/had dreams of pushing Axanar onto the big playing field and made enough noise about it that CBS couldn't ignore that as a direct challenge. And AP was looking to be paid for that as well.

And I'm worried about where my money is going. no matter how transparent things are.. It's my hard earned cash!

i'm not wottied about contributing to something like STC that has proven themselves trustworthy. It's really little different than buying a musician's music and thus encouraging him/her to produce more music you like.

 

[Newnham]

I know that productions want to be bigger and better, but I find that sometimes their expectations can be unrealistic. Also, for some, times are tough.