Well, there is supposedly a Damage Control series in the works...
I may have already mentioned this, but Damage Control got a nod in the first Iron Man movie as well
Agents of SHIELD: Season 3 - Discussion (SPOILERS LIKELY)
- Thread starter Trekker4747
- Start date
I may have already mentioned this, but Damage Control got a nod in the first Iron Man movie as well
That image is too tiny for me to make anything out.
IMO, the watchdogs in the MCU reminds me of the Bajoran “Circle” in DS9 in that both are extremest groups who are unknowing pawns, the Circle secretly funded by the Carsdassians and the Watchdogs secretly funded by Malick and Hydra.
I think Malick is secretly funding Blake and his Watchdogs so they can distract shield, the ATCU and other agencies who would otherwise be putting their resources into going after Hydra. I don’t think the Watchdogs serving as a distraction is going to work since Coulson already suspects Hydra involvement.
I think Malick is secretly funding Blake and his Watchdogs so they can distract shield, the ATCU and other agencies who would otherwise be putting their resources into going after Hydra. I don’t think the Watchdogs serving as a distraction is going to work since Coulson already suspects Hydra involvement.
Or it could be that stirring up an anti-Inhuman militant movement will serve to radicalize Inhumans and make them more inclined to join Hydra.
Hopefully, soon....Sounds good to me. I hope the old version is truly dead and gone forever.
The closed captions capitalized it as "Damage Control", so it seems like the former.
Now Ward is a proper villain with that outfit.
I learned something very important from this episode...Ted Cruz has won Wisconsin.
C'mon, Neo was a hero.
Neo was my first thought too when I saw Ward/Hive walking down the hallway.
This episode felt rather cinematic. At least the finale. Filmed differently or something.
I was pretty surprised when Daisy touched the guy at the very beginning that she didn't get a vision of the quinjet in space. Seemed like a wasted opportunity. So I'm glad they rectified that at the end.
How'd she share that one with everyone else? "Well guys, we're going into orbit."
This episode felt rather cinematic. At least the finale. Filmed differently or something.
I was pretty surprised when Daisy touched the guy at the very beginning that she didn't get a vision of the quinjet in space. Seemed like a wasted opportunity. So I'm glad they rectified that at the end.
How'd she share that one with everyone else? "Well guys, we're going into orbit."
As if we didn't have enough villains in the episode already...
At least they seemed to pick up just moments after they cut away. I don't think we missed much.
This was a fun variation on a "glimpsing the future" story. Fitz's view of how time works was actually a valid theory, and the explanation was fairly decent. It's worth noting that the episode didn't prove him wrong -- everything did happen exactly as predicted. I know that Marvel has tended to use a "time is immutable, but with alternate timelines" model in the comics. Have we seen anything else in the MCU that supports or refutes an immutable-timeline model?
My favorite bit was Daisy and the team using the future vision to "rehearse" the planned battle. I don't think I've seen that done in a time-related story before. "Okay, reset!"
Odd that HiveWard's idea of "true power" is something as brute-force as just having the physical strength to crush someone. That seems a bit basic for some great Big Bad. But maybe that's the point? That he's not the transcendental entity Malick expected, but just another thug? Still, he did make an interesting point about the flaw in the idea of supervillains bent on world domination -- namely, that you can effectively achieve that just by being rich and influential.
The thing is, if you find out that you're going to be hit by a bus tomorrow, just stay home.
Yeah, but as the episode showed, if time is immutable, then circumstances will contrive to ensure you leave home anyway.
We like to believe free will lets us change our future, but the operation of our brains is merely a manifestation of the laws of physics, rather than something that transcends them. Free will exists, but within the limits of what physics allows, so sometimes you have more free will and sometimes less. I like to say: If you're on an open plain, you have free will to choose your direction of movement (in two dimensions, anyway), but if you then fall off a cliff, then your freedom of choice becomes far more constrained. Time travel in a self-consistent timeline is like that -- it places far more constraints on your free will than you'd normally experience.
Or, going by the theory Fitz was using, all of time is a fixed construct, and what we perceive as free will is the result of not knowing in advance what the outcome will be. Looked at from the past, a decision is unmade, but looked at from the future, that decision is fixed. You get to make a choice in the moment, but you don't get a do-over, even if you get the chance to see ahead and find out what your choice will be.
Time may be immutable but our heroes didn't seem to try very hard to circumvent it.
Fitz's explanation for why time was immutable didn't make a lick of sense. It's like saying this glass next to me is immutable, as if I couldn't move it somewhere else. Or if I had a vision of it breaking when my dog knocked it over three days from now, that I can't just pick it up and smash it on the floor right now.
The fact that he was acting like a pissy little brat when he explained it didn't help either.
The fact that he was acting like a pissy little brat when he explained it didn't help either.
I was reminded of when CBS ran the TV movie of Stephen King's Salem's Lot, many many moons ago. They interrupted with election results just before each planned commercial break. The result was that we missed every single end-of-act cliffhanger moment, and pciked up after each commercial not knowing what had just happened. Obviously it wasn't that bad this time, but I still ended up screaming the same "WHO CAAAARES?!?!?!!?" every time.
News should be told during the news program. Period.
News should be told during the news program. Period.
Are you kidding? That's all they did throughout most of the episode. They tried to make sure that the people in Daisy's vision stayed at HQ. They spent hours training May to win the fight that Daisy had seen herself having, with the goal of changing its outcome by preventing the guard from triggering the alarm. But circumstances conspired to bring about the predicted outcome. Andrew's arrival meant that May couldn't go, so Daisy went instead. The others planned to stay behind, but once they saw Ward, all bets were off and they had to go after him.
I think he was just trying to teach Malick to broaden his horizons, to try doing something that even he, a super powerful evil world-manipulating billionaire, had never done before.
The thing that I wasn't quite sure about was the final line of the episode, when he was talking to Giyera on the phone and Giyera said he sounded afraid. Did that mean that Malick was afraid that he didn't fit into Hive's new world order?
Btw, speaking of the Neo/Matrix comparison before, the "he sounded afraid" line immediately took me to Starship Troopers. (the brain bug scene at the very end)
Fixed, he fulfilled the exact same purpose the other 5 did, the Oracle was the one who changed all the rules and he went along with everything he was told to do until the moment he died.
Anyhoo though, Hive is now the typical comic book villain.
I believe its from being shown his future when they guy touched him to help Daisy.
