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Same bar scene for me - Starfleet is a humanitarian armada (or something like that. Humanitarian!!!!! Talk about racism! No wonder TOS Spock was the only alien on the damn ship!

Edited after watching youtube clip - The Federation is a peacekeeping humanitarian armada.....yeah even worse

So humans aren't allowed to have their own culture? A TV show featuring humans? We're supposed to relate to a thousand alien species that require so much explanation there's no time for a story?

To be fair the UT probably translates "humanitarian" as "Vulcanitarian", "Bolianarian", "Andoriatarian" etc, in other alien tongues. Or as "coward protector" or something in Klingon. Languages probably don't arise from outside any alien culture looking in.

It can be argued that it's not racist to use your own culture and language, rather than crowbar terms like "humanoiditarian" or "entitarian" in some vain demonstration of self-deconstruction. And turn around and shout Q'Pla when you see a Klingon. How pandering is that?

The word racist implies a hostile intent, not a mere oversight or bias. Having different population numbers in the same room is not racist. Can't we just be comfortable with a little inexactitude in imperfect verbal communication? Or just call it an idiom and move on; instead of trying to kick up a dirt storm interpreting everything as its worst possible abuse? Don't eat ice cream, you are pro-diabetes!!

For goodness' sake, racism? Have you seen the show? : )

Where does it end - one member of every race in every seat like a Pantone color wheel? Now ALL we can see is our color! This is more racist than oddly-mingled cultures, if you ask me. And not somehow free of bias, but even more hoodwinked by it, because one thinks it's about quotas.
 
^ 'The Federation is a peacekeeping armada'... case closed, or even better 'Starfleet is a peacekeeping armada' no race or species needed to be mentioned. The fictional attitude of treating nonhumans as the other stems from the RL mindset of treating minorities as the other. Humans are not the default species of the Federation anymore than in real life X race on Earth is.

If the film was about the early years of the UN armed forces I would cringe the same way if Pike said 'The UN army is an American/British (whatever nationality) peacekeeping armada'.
I can understand the difficulty in relating to fake sci fi races who don't look like you, do you have the same trouble in real life?
 
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What if he said something more general, like "the Federation is a peacekeeping and altruistic armada" or "the Federation is a peacekeeping and philanthropic armada." It doesn't have quite the same connotation.

Nevermind that the Federation itself isn't an armada in the first place. :rolleyes:

Kor
 
^ 'The Federation is a peacekeeping armada'... case closed, or even better 'Starfleet is a peacekeeping armada' no race or species needed to be mentioned. The fictional attitude of treating nonhumans as the other stems from the RL mindset of treating minorities as the other. Humans are not the default species of the Federation anymore than in real life X race on Earth is.

If the film was about the early years of the UN armed forces I would cringe the same way if Pike said 'The UN army is an American/British (whatever nationality) peacekeeping armada'.
I can understand the difficulty in relating to fake sci fi races who don't look like you, do you have the same trouble in real life?

Gee, paranoid much? Yeah, that's what Star Trek is all about: Exclusion.
:rolleyes:
 
Back to the Picard thing... the few times when he actually speaks French, he does so with an English accent. :nyah:

Kor
 
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I'm trying to think now - did we see the holodeck create someone who wasn't holographic themselves an outfit prior to First Contact? I'm trying to sell an idea in my head that the E-E holodecks were an upgrade and prior to that period costumes needed to be real to 'fit' properly.
"Our Man Bashir"

Garak enters Bashir's James Bond holo-program dressed in a tux and is given a new set of clothes by Bashir's holographic "assistant."
 
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