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Spoilers Arrow - Season 4

So I'm of two minds about this episode - and in particular Curtis. On the one hand, it was fun overall (though I wish they'd skip the Olicity drama, and ship-teasing Ollie/Laurel was annoying) and Curtis especially was great. If - IF - Felicity's taking a more permanent hiatus from Team Arrow he's a good replacement.

On the other hand, I really really wish they were doing the standard Michael Holt Mr. Terrific because he's one of my favorite DC supporting characters, and he'd fit right in. With two exceptions - last name, and tech genius - this guy's nothing like Mr. Terrific.
 
On the other hand, I really really wish they were doing the standard Michael Holt Mr. Terrific because he's one of my favorite DC supporting characters, and he'd fit right in. With two exceptions - last name, and tech genius - this guy's nothing like Mr. Terrific.

He has more in common with Michael Holt than that -- he's an Olympic medalist (though bronze rather than gold), and he had a brother who died.
 
Oh, I'd forgotten that he was an Olympic medalist at all (albeit still not the super-awesome athlete Michael is) and the brother detail. Still though, in terms of actual characterization he couldn't be much different and it's that I liked.
 
Who is in the grave? Spoilers at the link.


if that's true...that's
lame...basically a repeat of last season's death. C'mon guys lets try to be more creative than that. Though maybe this is DC mandated. There's rumors Black Canary will be in the Justice League movie so they may be pulling a Deadshot, Amanda Waller thing here.
 
It is April 1st, could be photoshop.

Also, the Arrow subreddit for April Fools has been reskinned to look like Tumblr, and is Olicity themed, its hilarious.
 
I thought this week's episode was decent. I was glad that Murmur made a return. I think Murmur could really be a creepy, Joker/Hannibal Lecter kind of villain with the right approach. Still it was good that they hadn't forgotten.

I've been down on Olicity, but in this episode I was okay with how they handled it. I liked the Felicity, Thea, and Felicity's mom team up. I thought Bug-Eyed-Bandit was a good villain to use her, as the anti-Felicity. But as I watching I thought about The Calculator and how they've wasted him thus far on this show. I am glad that BEB had a deeper reason for attacking Palmer Tech.

I enjoyed Curtis 'joining' Team Arrow. His asides and interactions with the team were mostly fun. I wish though they had made him a bit more assured and agile when he was dodging that robot bee in the Arrowcave.

Dark's prison blues weren't that interesting to me, but I did like how he doesn't have power anymore but kind of knee jerked at Malcolm, forgetting that he had lost his powers. Malcolm said Genesis is still on, but I wish they would spell out exactly what the hell Genesis really all about. I also thought it was odd that Dark's wife is now going by the name Dark. And that there have been no challengers to her. So no one else in the city, on the city council wants the job? No business person or activists? Have they all been bought off or scared off from challenging her?

With the big reveal at the end, it made me think that Lyla could also be a person in the grave.

My downsides:
-Diggle getting taken down, yet again, when training with Oliver. At least they said he was training less due to parental/marital duties. Diggle should be a better fighter than they often portray.
-Felicity taking out that bee android (which didn't really make any sense to me) after it had so easily dispatched Oliver and Thea. So, there was no electric arrow? I get it that it was a Felicity-centric episode but still the physical heroics of Team Arrow took a backseat this week. Even in the office scenes, Thea was mostly standing around, not offering much in way of advice or coming up with ways to fight the bees.
 
I thought this week's episode was decent. I was glad that Murmur made a return. I think Murmur could really be a creepy, Joker/Hannibal Lecter kind of villain with the right approach. Still it was good that they hadn't forgotten.

I totally forgot that he'd appeared before.

I also thought it was odd that Dark's wife is now going by the name Dark. And that there have been no challengers to her. So no one else in the city, on the city council wants the job? No business person or activists? Have they all been bought off or scared off from challenging her?

I don't think she is going by Darhk. As I recall, Thea got a text from her boyfriend and said "He's been offered a job by Ruve Darhk." I don't think we saw any indication that Ruve herself was going by that name.
 
^
Okay, so does the boyfriend know that Ruve is married to Darhk? Because how would he know unless it was public knowledge? I can't recall now if Ruve was also in the courtroom to support Darhk. Or was it just Thea saying that? And why not use her publicly acknowledged name or just say Darhk's wife?

As for Murmur, yeah he was in a previous episode but I don't think he was well utilized. A Flash villain I'm glad the producers realized he would have a better home on Arrow than on the Flash show.

http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/Michael_Amar
 
^
Okay, so does the boyfriend know that Ruve is married to Darhk?

No. No. Thea was not quoting the text verbatim. She probably read a text from him saying "Offered a job by Ruve Adams" and interpreted it as "Oh my god, he's been offered a job by Ruve Darhk."
 
Wow, I Totally did not remember Murmur had already appeared.
That reminds me, I really loved seeing the four of them training and fighting each other. Have they shown that before? I like seeing Arrow mentor them (and prove that he's the best fighter since he's our star).
 
you're telling me they put
'The Black Canary' on her tombstone? i don't buy it. the show isn't THAT goofy.
 
^ Yes, I'm telling you that

The show that writes its Starling City residents as such morons that they actually believed Roy's declaration that he was the Arrow after Oliver was identified to be the guy, despite being obviously much shorter than the Arrow, and the show that now lets Oliver run for mayor with Darkh not knowing he's the Arrow, yes, I'm telling you the show that recently featured reincarnated hawk-people from Ancient Egyptian times is exactly that goofy to put "The Black Canary" on Laurel's grave.

Anyhow, Guggenheim pretty much confirms the leak here. He wouldn't be defending "their take on the Green Arrow mythos" if it wasn't a key character like Laurel, because he wouldn't have to.

It's Laurel, folks.



... And IMO, it's the right call. I don't care about the comics; she should never have become the second Black Canary after Sara (who deserved a better death in the first place than as a semi-random pawn in one of Malcolm's schemes) in the first place. She could have served Team Arrow on the legal side as a DA, sure, but her suiting up regularly was just lame, as is Thea's doing the same.
 
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