The production qualities were good, many of the actors performed well, and the documentary concept had potential, but it was just so empty to me. I marveled at the claim that "this is what Star Trek is supposed to be!" To me, it was even more vapid than the JJ films and bore no resemblance whatever to classic Trek. That's to say nothing of "Queen Bitch Whore." I have no issue with vulgarity in art, but that was patently un-Trek and contradictory to their stated vision for the project.
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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How do you intend to do that?
I can read minds, darling - one would have thought it was clear by now... I just tend not to use the ability that often
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Whats the betting that, for Star Trek XIV, they add a character called Peters who get killed and/or put on trial
I liked "Prelude..." but I didn't think it was some kind of pure, distilled Star Trek. It was moderately entertaining "pew-pew" carried by the special effects. I expected the main film to be more of the same. Which was fine.
I enjoyed Prelude. It was a different take and I'm a sucker for the documentary format. However, I would never say it was some sort of breakthrough. I saw it as an effective teaser for the full production. Given the amount of money that was raised and the amount of talent on both sides of the camera that were committed to the project there's really no excuse for not getting it done.
Out of all the pros involved, he surprises me the least. He's always been a bit of a crusader. He fought for years for a BSG sequel, down to producing his own trailer for it (which is, I think, out there if you look hard enough). Seems right up his alley to me.
Now Graham on the other hand... If I were him, I'd be worried that I'd be unemployable when the 2017 production hits. Could be wrong about that though; I have no idea how politics work in Hollywood.
Out of all the pros involved, he surprises me the least. He's always been a bit of a crusader. He fought for years for a BSG sequel, down to producing his own trailer for it (which is, I think, out there if you look hard enough). Seems right up his alley to me.
Now Graham on the other hand... If I were him, I'd be worried that I'd be unemployable when the 2017 production hits. Could be wrong about that though; I have no idea how politics work in Hollywood.
I don't know much about Hatch, honestly. (That trailer sounds pretty funny.) I just figured he wouldn't want to be named as a defendant. But your take is consistent with the facts. Good luck with that, Richard.
None, officially; that's true. It's basically just him. Besides AP and RB, Hatch is the only one with any deeper involvement, since he was tied to all of Alec's pie-in-the-sky stuff like the "sci-fi film school."
The right question, Maurice.
JG, Kate and the others, aside from Richard, have been awfully quiet up to now. And it doesn't seem, the "whole bunch" is availabe for the so called "World Tour". Seems rather AP and RMB are alone on the dove hunt.
Well, I even can't put my finger on Richard's involvement any longer aside from him defending the Axanar case...
If you look at Richard's IMDB page, he doesn't seem to get any high profile work anymore. There seems to be a blurry line between the fan-films he does and the B-movie-esque indies, with a lot of overlap in the people involved (Tim Russ, Tobias). So he has more to gain by siding with camp-Axanar and the other Does.
Think of the last time you saw (or heard) either on television or in a film.
One of them has a lot more to lose than the other.
Probably alot of politics going on with the actors. I know they Graham alot in the amended complaint, but there is a good chance that they don't want to name actors as does. The screen actors guild is not something CBS/Paramount wants to wrestle with, not over Axanar.
John Boyega showing up as Finn at children's hospital? Cool.
Arnold walking Hollywood Blvd as the terminator For Omaze charity? Cool
But neither would be allowed to dress up for hire dressed as their famous characters. So no doing kid's birthday parties as Finn for a quick couple hundred dollars.
Gary Graham in a fan film as a vulcan is probably in the middle and the studio wouldn't want to deal with that mess.
John Boyega showing up as Finn at children's hospital? Cool.
Arnold walking Hollywood Blvd as the terminator For Omaze charity? Cool
But neither would be allowed to dress up for hire dressed as their famous characters. So no doing kid's birthday parties as Finn for a quick couple hundred dollars.
Gary Graham in a fan film as a vulcan is probably in the middle and the studio wouldn't want to deal with that mess.
It's actually not funny, but very well done. I can't search for it at the moment, but it was called "Battlestar Galactica: The Second Coming." If crowdfunding had been a thing back then, I think he could have made it.
Oh believe me, any uncomplimentary language I reserve for the mind that, it turns out, believed the world wanted an installment of PewdiePie FireTorps in the Temple of Gary Stu Righteousness for 2 million bucks. I really, really was hoping he would listen to advice (which had to be available), and achieve a great story. He may still have a chance... if they manage some how to emerge with the means to do some other production, he could still ask for someone to help on whatever property he next wants to write for. And maybe, his final, final, [not final], locked [not] script is so vastly improved that it proves all reactions to drafts to be utterly misguided. If so, I for one would be happy for him, even if its doomed as a movie by this group now, and probably doomed to never be published in his name if an injunction against him is granted. It could circulate samizdat.
Wasn't he supposed to be one of the panelists at that recent con where only the woman and Alec spoke? Wondercon, legacy and future of BSG. or was that pic from a different con?
Richard Hatch (Captain Apollo, Tom Zarek, Kharn, Axanar) hosts a panel and fan discussion on the legacy and creative direction any forthcomingBattlestar Galactica movie or series should take. Panelists include producerAlec Peters (Propworx, Axanar), Dr. Kevin Grazier (science consultant, Battlestar, Eureka, and Falling Skies), andRob Burnett (Free Enterprise). The panel also includes surprise guests,Battlestar Galactica videos, comic reels, and a Q&A.
Out of all the pros involved, he surprises me the least. He's always been a bit of a crusader. He fought for years for a BSG sequel, down to producing his own trailer for it (which is, I think, out there if you look hard enough). Seems right up his alley to me.
Now Graham on the other hand... If I were him, I'd be worried that I'd be unemployable when the 2017 production hits. Could be wrong about that though; I have no idea how politics work in Hollywood.
More power to Mr. Hatch for giving life energy to fan efforts. I think he was blindsided on this one.
What they probably fear is visits every week from very earnest, costumed Vulcans lobbying their VP offices and picketing the studio for his reinstatement. "Reason for Logic Reenactors"... "No Vulcans, no Pon Farr"...
He got a solid alternate role on BSG, shows the respect he has.
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If crowdfunding had been a thing then, Glen Larson and/or Universal would have sued.
I hope you stick around. Regarding the legality of fan fiction and fan films, you might learn some stuff. And not all of us are so aggressive to new people.
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