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Captain America: Civil War - pre-release discussion, news, rumors, etc

That's kind of my point...the overall costume seems very old-school compared to the previous movie outfits with their raised webbing and whatnot, so it's an odd choice that they'd slap such a flashy upgrade on it as the expressive eyes. Other than the eyes, this one looks the most like something that Peter might have credibly made himself if he had a really good home ec teacher...so it'll be all the odder (in relationship to the previous movie outfits) if he had Stark's help with this one...whereas his previous film outfits were presumably made by Peter with no help, but seemed beyond the capabilities of a teenager to make in his bedroom.

Comparing this to those doesn't make much sense to me, though, since it's a different reality playing by different rules. The whole idea of having Tony provide the final suit is a direct response to those criticisms, by providing a rationale for a 15-year-old from Queens to have a movie-worthy costume. And a costume doesn't have to be loaded with all sorts of fancy textures or gadgets to be high-tech. There are a number of subtle details that are beyond what a "home ec teacher" could explain, like the fine texture of the material (which is still there, just less pronounced than before) and the details on the belt that are presumably web-cartridge holders. I'm sure we'll get a look at his high-tech Stark-made webshooters as well. (Now, that's a question. Raimi's Spidey had organic webbing; Webb's stole the web formula from Oscorp. Will Marvel finally go with the idea that Peter Parker was brilliant enough to invent the web formula on his own, or will they cop out too and say it was a Stark invention? I'm thinking maybe Peter invented it, and that got Tony's interest, but his own webshooter prototypes are probably cruder and bulkier than what Tony provides as part of the final costume.)

As with all things in movie trailers, it's reckless and pointless to try to make decisive judgments based on a couple of seconds out of context. We'll get a better idea when we see the actual movie and have more than one little glimpse to go on. How often in your life have you been felt initial dislike or skepticism toward something -- or someone -- that you learned to love once you had more experience?
 
Comparing this to those doesn't make much sense to me, though, since it's a different reality playing by different rules.
I'm not looking at this from a strictly in-universe perspective. Whether or not the previous films are in-continuity with the current one is irrelevant...in our reality they exist, and give us a lineage of onscreen Spidey costumes for comparison.

We'll get a better idea when we see the actual movie and have more than one little glimpse to go on.
And once again, there's no need to tell me what I've already acknowledged.

This place would be pretty dead if we felt the need to not express any opinions of upcoming productions before we'd seen the finished product. I'm entitled to have an opinion of what has been shown, and I feel that I've expressed it in a reasonable fashion.
 
I'm sure we'll get a look at his high-tech Stark-made webshooters as well. (Now, that's a question. Raimi's Spidey had organic webbing; Webb's stole the web formula from Oscorp. Will Marvel finally go with the idea that Peter Parker was brilliant enough to invent the web formula on his own, or will they cop out too and say it was a Stark invention?

I hope Parker is the creator of the web shooters. Being a world-class inventor does not have an age limit in either direction. If there was one flaw in the otherwise great Sam Raimi Spider-Man movies was Raimi's belief that:

a high school student creating an adhesive that 3M could not was "a little too fantastic

These are superhero films, so there should be few limits on adapting plausible elements from the comic source.
 
Personally, I wonder if Raimi was "convinced" by someone else to go organic. (Just like Arad convinced Raimi to do Venom.) All the pre-production was with mechanical webshooters in mind, and they shot at least some of the movie with them. (The scene where Peter webs up his room by practicing was fixed after the fact to erase the wristbands he was wearing when they filmed.)
 
Personally, I wonder if Raimi was "convinced" by someone else to go organic. (Just like Arad convinced Raimi to do Venom.) All the pre-production was with mechanical webshooters in mind, and they shot at least some of the movie with them. (The scene where Peter webs up his room by practicing was fixed after the fact to erase the wristbands he was wearing when they filmed.)

I'm not sure if Raimi had to be convinced--or was it his idea, but it surprising for anyone to think inventing web formula was going too far, yet the entire means Parker becomes Spider-Man was acceptable. Odd.
 
I liked the idea of organic webs. Kinda made sense to me, what with the radioactive spider-bite and the wall-crawling and stuff. Surprised now that Marvel didn't do it that way in the original comics.
 
I'm not looking at this from a strictly in-universe perspective. Whether or not the previous films are in-continuity with the current one is irrelevant...in our reality they exist, and give us a lineage of onscreen Spidey costumes for comparison.

Yes, and that's probably why the texture on this costume is more subtle. The previous costumes were criticized for their "basketball" texture. You're saying they ought to be judged against the previous costumes; I'm saying it's the audience judgment of the previous costumes (i.e. that they're too fancy or that Peter shouldn't have been able to make them himself) that's driven the creative process for this costume in the first place.
 
Behind the scenes video posted by the Russo brothers

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Vision in casual clothing

Thor and Banner are mentioned.
 
Everybodies got new outfits. Tony's been busy, between the MK.46, Ant-Man's new suit, Spiderdick's weirdly self animate lycra onesie, upgrades to War Machine by the looks of it after Sokovia.

Vision can just mimic anything he wants, flipping through clothing catalogues. Actually I think Natasha is the only one still wearing something from a previous movie with her standard BW outfit, but Hawkeye's wearing something new every movie.

The wardrobe Dept budget alone must have taken a chunk of the funding.
 
^Widow gets a new suit every film too. The changes just don't stand out as much as the others.
 
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