What We Want VS What We'll Get?
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Another thing to take into account with the release format:
Considering this is only being streamed on All-Access in the States and will be distributed to local TV channels in other countries around the world, it's probably more likely it will have a weekly or one-at-a-time episode release format.
Considering this is only being streamed on All-Access in the States and will be distributed to local TV channels in other countries around the world, it's probably more likely it will have a weekly or one-at-a-time episode release format.
I think this quote from Henry Ford, later embraced by Steve Jobs, says it best: “if I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.”
"Faster horses" works, from a business standpoint. That's SW: Force Awakens. However, the familiar, as comforting as it is, doesn't really inspire the way new stuff can. But the second you try something new you risk upsetting the apple-cart.
My opinion is there's a way to have things both be familiar (prime continuity) and new (unique setting or timeframe and method of execution).
I don't think it's necessary to start tabula rasa.
Isn't that EXACTLY what the hardcore fans want? Primeverse show in a new timeframe?
An Abramsverse show or complete reboot would be more along the lines of "upsetting the apple-cart". But if it works? If it has quality storytelling and interesting characters? Then you've hit the jackpot.
Setting and casting are what fans speculate about the most in threads like this, but the the writing approach and the overall style or vibe of a work is what is key. Stylistically speaking, TNG is different from TOS. TMP is different from the other TOS films. And so on. Whether someone will like it or not is more wrapped up in execution than setting or casting.
The discussion about whether to kill off characters or not (ala Game of Thrones) or whether to serialize or not or how "dark" it is... Those things will be what alienates or earns the show fans.
I think the huge amount of CGI work involved in this show will necessitate an episodic release.
Most Star Trek fans don't have a single creative bone in their bodies or thought in their heads. Their opinion on anything creative is and should be worth less than nothing. Catering to them will lead to a terrible show that no one will watch and even fewer people will like.
What a stupid, hyperbolizing and generalizing thing to say. It ultimately dismisses and excludes the thoughts and contributions from anyone ever born, including the creators who were and are also fans.
Mister Spock on TOS was given more screen time because of listening to the audience.
.One of the more resent examples of how a show can be improved by listening to the fans is the series Gotham. After a half dozen episodes the series was heading toward quick cancellation, by monitoring what the audience was saying about it, TPTB made important changes that alter the direction of the shop and saved it.
The writers of The X-File would quietly hang out in usenet fan forums to see what the fans thought of the show and apply the knowledge to the scripts
The writers on Heroes would partially base decisions of which characters to kill off, by which were unpopular with the audience.
On Supernatural, the character of Castiel was meant to be a minor character, he caused such positive feedback from the fans that his character was retained. Supernatural has also killed off characters based on audience internet discussions.
The character of Spike on Buffy the Vampire Slayer was originally intended to be on the show only for a few episodes, he became a reoccurring character solely based on audience reaction.
On Stargate SG-1, fan insistence was the sole reason the popular character of Danial Jackson was brought back.
Going back a ways, the character of Fonzie on Happy Days was intended to be a minor character, fan reaction made him one of the stars of the series.
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Want: more planet bound episode. I want to see Starfleet academy. I want to see Starfleet HQ, its JAG etc. I want to see shipyards. I want to see these locales help flesh out the backstory of the main characters.
Get: another show with a few flashbacks set in studios in which you can still see the paint dry in the background.
Get: another show with a few flashbacks set in studios in which you can still see the paint dry in the background.
Yes, in recent decades people are more and more touchy and oversensitive about every little thing. Let's see some genuine strength of character, some hardness.
Kor
This is an example that doesn't support your point. It actually describes what led the show to jump the shark. But the other examples are decent.
Maybe hardcore fans of Berman-era Trek. But they aren't the only hardcore segment of Trek fandom.
Kor
Fonzie was popular long before the shark jump episode.
Well duh. That would be required. Is that some sort of contrary statement?
I'm all for listening to the audience, but this is an anecdote that just doesn't support the point.
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