I thought this WAS the Cushman bashing thread. Would someone like to start a Cushman praising thread?
Didn't think so.
Didn't think so.
Cushman "These Are The Voyages" Season 3 - Who is "M.D.R."?
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I thought this WAS the Cushman bashing thread. Would someone like to start a Cushman praising thread?
Didn't think so.
Back when the first edition of the first book came out, there was a least one poster praising/defending him.
What we really need is an organized 'sticky' thread on the forum seriously correcting his books in the order of the text in the books themselves without any author bashing, snark, or other distractions.
^^^And how do you propose such a thing would happen? Posts have to be made in the order of the errors in the book?
Easier to just read the Star Trek Fact Check entries.
Easier to just read the Star Trek Fact Check entries.
I'm sorry to go off-topic, but may I ask who the suspect for Whitney's assault would be? I have absolutely no idea.
Me, too, except I have a pretty good idea but I usually feel completely ignorant in these kind of things, never going to conventions or owning any of those books everyone has memorized. I've just watched the episodes from when I was 9 for the past almost 40 years, some of those years 10 episodes a week, then I got the tapes, then I got the dvds. I'm really interested in things like discussing these books even though the only way I'd actually have them is if someone gave them to me. I love checking Harvey's blog. So are we talking about GR himself or am I wrong? Of course this is not proof, but that's what I got from it.
Why should the text of the articles be repeated here?
The issue with fixing every flaw would mean doing Cushman's work for him. I wouldn't put it past him to revise his books with the work others have done. He's quietly revised the season one book once to address an issue. What's to stop him again? We're not beta testers. Let him fix his own books.
Neil
Whitney never named her assailant, but when you look at her 1998 memoir and another interview she gave to StarTrek.com in 2011...
- "I had the sexual assault from someone at Desilu, which I found out later was done by a lot of producers (during that era)." [Emphasis added]
- "The Executive" was able to lure Whitney away from the wrap party (for "Miri") by telling her he wanted to talk about "some interesting possibilities" for her character (My Longest Trek, p.2). Wrote Whitney later, "I was always looking for ways to advance my career, to enlarge my part and get more lines" (My Longest Trek, p.2). In other words, "The Executive" was someone in a position to make Whitney's part bigger -- this limits the list of suspects to Star Trek's male staff (Gene Roddenberry, John D.F. Black, Gene Coon, Steven Carabatsos, Bob Justman) and the creative executives at Desilu (Herb Solow) and NBC (Stan Robertson).
- "The Executive" have Whitney "a polished gray stone" that he made for her (My Longest Trek, p.8). If you've read Inside Star Trek: The Real Story (1996), you'll know which member of the production polished stones as a hobby.
- For many years, Whitney believed "The Executive" had her "removed from Star Trek because he didn't want to be reminded of what he did to me that night" (My Longest Trek, p.15) This further indicates he was someone in the position to add or drop a regular actor from the show.
- When she published her book, Whitney wrote, "Today, the Executive can no longer hurt me" (My Longest Trek, p.14), suggesting he was dead at that point (1998).
- "I had known this man for a couple years, and had never known him to be violent. A womanizer, yes, but not a monster" (My Longest Trek, p.5)
- "I mentioned the name of the woman he was involved with. 'You love her, don't you?' I asked. 'And she loves you. We can't do this behind her back!"
'She doesn't care,' he shrugged defensively, guiltily, unconvincingly. 'She knows I'm with other women. She understands'" (My Longest Trek, p.5). This means that Whitney knew "The Executive" well enough to know the name of the woman he was involved with.
The supposed UESPA books still make me giggle.
I'm not any kind of academic and I knew it was bullshit from the moment he published it.
It must be shared again!The supposed UESPA books still make me giggle.
https://goo.gl/photos/NvsL5H2WDJAKVXiy6
Neil
That's brilliant.
And remember, they're not self-published.
Neil
So many lies designed to get cash from enthusiastic fans.
Harvey summarizes it all much better than I could. It's a circumstantial case, but it adds up. I hate to say it, but I'm convinced.
Thanks Harvey and Jonny. I had to do a little extra Google-ing for the "polished stones" bit to be sure. I must say I'm shocked. All these years digging in Star Trek history and I've never heard this before.
This pretty much nails it down, I think. No other clue is required
I wish I wasn't so convinced, but of all the potential assailants (Gene Roddenberry, John D.F. Black, Gene Coon, Steven Carabatsos, Bob Justman, Herb Solow, and Stan Robertson), I'm afraid Whitney's memoir points pretty strongly to one man.
Of course, there's the question of Whitney's credibility, but given the other things she talks very frankly about in her memoir, and the fact that she went out of her way to avoid naming "The Executive," I see no reason to doubt her story.
No record I'm sure, but this thread has an exceedingly low percentage of posts having anything to do with the OP. On the other hand, perhaps all of the commentary on the books and their progenitor, is simply an oblique way of consigning the validity of the topic to the dustbin, along with the rest of the texts.
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