Marvel All New, All Different - Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers)

[Guy Gardener]

I don't count Faiza as "obscure".

As for the Alpha Flight question...I'm not sure why the writers and editors involved would want to depict Ottawa as letting T'Challa talk them into handing over that brand-name for use in replacing SWORD either.

She appeared in 3 notable comics maybe 5 years ago.

(You can argue me down with facts, but it was a long time ago, and didn't last long. Even the Black Knight is loved because of what he did in the 80s. Not because of anything he's done recently. New comics suck. No one cares about new comics. If we didn't forget new comics immediately, we might notice all the money we're wasting on new comics wishing that they still made us feel like old comics did. Old comics weren't even that much better, we were just less worldly, jaded and intelligent 30 years ago.)

Puck and Sasquatch are on the Alpha Flight Station.

Puck keeps hitting on Carol.

Remember, he's probably pushing a 140, so either he's an idiot, or this caveman behavior gets him laid.

Although Hercules 2099 had to sit and have a cry last year "What's happened to women? I don't understand them any more. They're not the same as they used to be. Why won't they #### me? I'm awesome, they should #### me because I'm awesome, but they won't. WHAT THE #### HAPPENED!!!???"

 

[kirk55555]

I finally finished off Secret Wars Civil War.

Pointless shit.

You could not stab someone in the eye at all with this shit.

Secret Wars: Civil War was one of the better Secret wars tie-ins in my opinion I mean, that bar is not high, but I enjoyed it.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Originally, Civl War was a question about if Vigilantes needed oversight.

This story however started 5 years after Captain America and Iron Man had already taken over America.

I mean, shit. They're super villains?

I think Iron Man needed as much oversight as Captain America, which answers the Civil war question entirely don't you think?

After 5 years of embittered war, there were no more super heroes, just super soldiers, and there were no civilians to randomly protect with heroism, just refugees in waiting on Caps side of the divide and Utopic Future people living in absolute luxury on Stark's side of the country.

After you admit that America is gone, and the Blue and the Iron are two different countries who do not have to occupy the entire region that used to be all of America, you gotta ask, what the #### were they fighting over?

Was Stark going to tell 60 million slumdogs that it was free ipads and replicators for every one, so forgive him please for killing half their families with clusterbombs?

Or was Rogers going to insist that 120 million technocrats put down their ipads and turn off the robots minding their farms and take off their shirts to till their own fields?

I honestly believe that the only principle either side was fighting for was "Fuck you".

 

[DEWLine]

Judd was born in 1914, in Saskatoon. A place I know somewhat due to my own family history. When he was born, Saskatoon would've been a city of 20,000 or so, the most-populated in Saskatchewan at the time. He'd have been four when the Spanish Flu hit the world. What he saw and did as a "soldier of fortune" before running into the rogue magician "Black Razer" in Baghdad in 1939...

He'd be 102 nowadays. Guessing he knows to pick his moments and his partners carefully. This was a guy who carried a torch for Heather Hudson for years after it was believed that her husband had died. Loyal in his choices once made.

 

[kirk55555]

Originally, Civl War was a question about if Vigilantes needed oversight.

This story however started 5 years after Captain America and Iron Man had already taken over America.

I mean, shit. They're super villains?

I think Iron Man needed as much oversight as Captain America, which answers the Civil war question entirely don't you think?

After 5 years of embittered war, there were no more super heroes, just super soldiers, and there were no civilians to randomly protect with heroism, just refugees in waiting on Caps side of the divide and Utopic Future people living in absolute luxury on Stark's side of the country.

After you admit that America is gone, and the Blue and the Iron are two different countries who do not have to occupy the entire region that used to be all of America, you gotta ask, what the #### were they fighting over?

Was Stark going to tell 60 million slumdogs that it was free ipads and replicators for every one, so forgive him please for killing half their families with clusterbombs?

Or was Rogers going to insist that 12 million technocrats put down their ipads and turn off the robots minding their farms and take off their shirts to till their own fields?

I honestly believe that the only principle either side was fighting for was "Fuck you".

Oh, as a actual continuation of the Civil War event in the main Marvel U it would have been stupid and terrible. As a alternate reality story set on the nonsensical "Battleworld", it was entertaining. Very average entertainment, but still.

 

[TheSeeker]

So I have been reading Extraordinary X-Men and they keep talking about the horrible thing Scot Summers did, but I still haven't been able to figure out what it is that he did. Can anyone enlighten me?

 

[JoeZhang]

I don't read any of the x-men books but have enjoyed 'worst x-man ever'.

 

[kirk55555]

So I have been reading Extraordinary X-Men and they keep talking about the horrible thing Scot Summers did, but I still haven't been able to figure out what it is that he did. Can anyone enlighten me?

I basically read every X-Men book and have for awhile, and I haven't seen the reason. I think they're just alluding to whatever he did and haven't revealed it in any book yet. I know it was horrible, and I know Sunfire supported him. That is literally all I know after reading all the X-Men books out right now. Looking online, someone says he attacked Attilan in retaliation for the Terrigen Mist cloud and was killed, but if they mentioned it in a book I didn't notice, although it makes sense.

 

[TheSeeker]

Thanks. It also occurs to me that all the Marvel books are set 8 months after Secret Wars so whatever Scott did it probably happened sometime in that 8 month period we know nothing about yet.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Yeah, there are quite a few mysteries throughout the books related to these things. How Daredevil got his secret identity back is another.

I almost feel, for that one, each book needs a disclaimer in the "last time" page specifying that no one has revealed it yet. People were pissed off when 600 came out and didn't have it. People were pissed off when it wasn't revealed in Secret Wars. It's something yet to be revealed.

 

[Kira's Mom]

Black Knight is officially the first cancellation of All New All Different Marvel. I'm sad. I was enjoying it. I guess poor Dane Whitman is going back into comic book limbo now.

At least the first (and now only) arc is going to be finished. Two more issues.

 

[Hound of UIster]

Surprised it's not Red Wolf.

Word on the ground from retailers seems to be: ANAD is pretty much doing a DCYou in turning off reader interests. I guess people are getting tired of relaunches and reboots and events.

Edit: And per BC, it seems like Angela, Devil Dinosaur and Howling Commandos are all on the chopping block.

 

[Kira's Mom]

Hercules is doomed, too. It barely sells what Angela and the Howling Commandos are.

 

[Saga]

i really enjoy Angela so i'd hate to see that book get canceled too. Hercules is an ok book. its just...kinda there.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I have no interest in this version of Hercules. However, if the book gets dumped, I'd like to see Herc show up in Totally Awesome Hulk for a Herc/Cho reunion story.

 

[JD]

(Some how magically, and maybe only for right now, and not the future at all) Ms. Marvel is A-List. Well, A-list for comics, I'm just wondering if that will reflect into TV or a movie soon sooner, later or never?

I could see Kamala doing a couple episodes of Agent's of S.H.I.E.L.D.

She isn't headlining her own show (yet), but Kamala is going to be on Avengers Assemble: Ultron Revolution, and she is a character in the moble games Marvel Puzzle Quest, and Avaengers Academy. I've only just started, so I haven't gotten her yet but she is also playable character in LEGO Marvel's Avengers.

 

[DEWLine]

I'll be disappointed if we lose Howling Commandos of SHIELD. Deeply.
Also, getting curious about Hercules...

 

[Captain Craig]

Black Knight is officially the first cancellation of All New All Different Marvel. I'm sad. I was enjoying it. I guess poor Dane Whitman is going back into comic book limbo now.

At least the first (and now only) arc is going to be finished. Two more issues.

Surprised it's not Red Wolf.

Word on the ground from retailers seems to be: ANAD is pretty much doing a DCYou in turning off reader interests. I guess people are getting tired of relaunches and reboots and events.

Edit: And per BC, it seems like Angela, Devil Dinosaur and Howling Commandos are all on the chopping block.

I don't know why I even try anymore to give C list title a chance. Marvel clearly doesn't support them beyond some modest PR at launch. They launch a flood of titles at once instead of having a staggered release pattern. Launching books in waves allows for fans to take note but instead what's happening is you can't see the forrest for the trees type thing.
My guess is they launch all at once cause they've got the next "great universe shattering event" so they need all books within a few months of each other for "ease of cancelling" next time, 12-18months later.

I'm loving Black Knight, a character I've not really followed since late 80/early 90s Avenger tales.
I've tried Red Wolf and two issues in Edmondson has his main narrative set up. I look for issue 3 to start tying his past and future instances together towards a "Big Bad".
Howling Commandoes of SHIELD, while not the team I would've put together(zombie Jasper, really?) clearly needed more Man-Thing right out of the gate. And one that still talked from his Thunderbolts character growth as well.
I tried Hercules but this isn't a version of the character I could get behind.
I hope Scarlet Witch is doing well as I'm also really enjoying that. Issue #3 I hope to read tonight.

How is Agents of Atlas not on the list? Is it doing well? What about Vision?

 

[kirk55555]

How is Agents of Atlas not on the list? Is it doing well? What about Vision?

There isn't any agents of Atlas series right now (unless you mean "Why isn't it on the list of new comics", as in "why hasn't it came back yet?"). I LOVE Agents of Atlas, but it had two ongoings fail because of lack of sales in close proximity to each other. I doubt we'll be seeing the group any time soon, at least in its own book.

 

[Captain Craig]

^^^^^
I see what I did. Marvel's Oct Solicitations on Newsarama had Secret Wars: Agent of Atlas #1. That was apparently a closing tie-in to the event that occurred alongside the launching of other #1's spinning out of Secret Wars like Iron Man, Amazing Spiderman, Angela, Ant-Man so that's what confused me it seems.