Cheap amusement? Maybe? But they made themselves such easy targets.
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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Cheap amusement? Maybe? But they made themselves such easy targets.
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There was mockery, damned right there was. That's not why most of us were there. I know a number of us were members of the Axanar Fan Group page, and when we started asking silly questions like "how do you expect to win an IP infringement lawsuit?" and statements like "I don't think this is going to work out well. Copyright law doesn't work that way," we were banned. Some being chewed out and treated like shit by the Admins of the page as they were booted.
Then, Alec tells his "Marines" to join the CBS page and start shit, which they do. After that, it was open and punches weren't pulled any longer.
Amazing summary. Sorry which article are we referring to?
Its all a great laugh -Axanar will fail -based on a minute scene the movie will be crap -its good because Peters is this or that.
I donated money based on what I saw in prelude and I liked the basis of the story. I come on here and find out I'm either an idiot for donating because I was not aware of soap opera drama politics that this place feeds on or I'm somehow in service to Alec or guilty. You really should look at how fans like yourselves will be impacted when the money they donated is lost.
I donated money based on what I saw in prelude and I liked the basis of the story. I come on here and find out I'm either an idiot for donating because I was not aware of soap opera drama politics that this place feeds on or I'm somehow in service to Alec or guilty. You really should look at how fans like yourselves will be impacted when the money they donated is lost.
Not to burst the self-rightous bubble, but quiet a few people here donated. I actually feel sorry for the fans, they're the ones continuously getting fucked over.
Except the one who doxxed Squiggy. Sympathy only goes so far.
It didn't help that (in the end) some of the loudest posters were some of this place's banned lunatic fringe. I know blocking them from the outset would have defeated the purpose (not falling into Alec's zealous censorship habits), but that was a big hint that things were going to get ugly.
Except the one who doxxed Squiggy. Sympathy only goes so far.
It didn't help that (in the end) some of the loudest posters were some of this place's banned lunatic fringe. I know blocking them from the outset would have defeated the purpose (not falling into Alec's zealous censorship habits), but that was a big hint that things were going to get ugly.
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Really? I'm Self Rightous for pointing out that perhaps people should consider those that donated and may see nothing as a result might not see this as all giggles and drama to feed off?
Those are exactly the people I'm concerned about.
There are folks who donated over $1000 to either the KS or IGG (perhaps both). There are folks who are still donating, despite the fact that this is happening. No matter how anyone feels about anything, you have got to look at this production and have some doubts. Even the most fervent true believers have got to, if they have any sense at all, be seeing there are going to be delays. There already are, and there already had been even before the suit was filed. Delays should = red flags.
I don't know what the current donors think they're funding. It's likely to be travel and copying and whatnot fees for Winston & Strawn at this point. Those are legitimate lawsuit expenses of course. But they are not filmmaking. I really hope the current donors know this.
Did anyone here know about the press release? The one from Tony Todd last September, announcing his leaving the Axanar production? I just found out about it this morning.
https://www.prlog.org/12489801-tony-todd-exits-star-trek-axanar.html
https://www.prlog.org/12489801-tony-todd-exits-star-trek-axanar.html
A better question would be why didn't anyone at Axanar let it be known that Tony Todd has left the project until Tony Todd said it on Twitter during the same time as the CBS lawsuit filing?
I think that would be the obvious next question.
I wouldn't be surprised that no one from the Prelude is returning except for maybe Gary Graham, and they are not telling anyone yet.I think that would be the obvious next question.
How do you want people to respond? If you want sympathy, most of it's at the beginning of the thread. If you just want everyone to shut up about it, well...even if this entire BBS shut down tomorrow, it won't happen. Even now, Axanar's still trying to rise publicity.
If it makes you feel any better, youre not an idiot. You've just been caught in the collateral damage of Alec's idiocy. I think even a lot of Alec's critics were surprised at how badly this whole thing was handled.
EDIT: On a happier note, Tony Todd is doing a Frankenstein movie!
And possibly Richard Hatch?
Why would we consider their feelings? They were told this very thing might happen and they donated anyway. Granted that disclosure wasn't front and center when they clicked "donate", but it was there.
So you have the people who donated a couple of bucks and no big loss except to their ego. Life moves on.
Or the people who donated tons of money and could afford it. Again, no loss there.
Or the people who donated more than their budget allows - to a self-proclaimed producer of a stolen property who is known around the fandom for being his own biggest fan and has already run one business into the ground.
Do your research. Caveat emptor.
Those folks are idiotic and deserve to loose their money.
You mean if he isn't too busy trying to get his Battlestar Galactica The Second Coming made?
Fans like yourself should look at how Star Trek overall will be impacted if Axanar loses this suit. It will likely be the end of fan films as we know them because one jackass couldn't follow one simple rule, "don't make money". Fan films have now become a hassle for CBS.
One? Try 21. We have yet been told of who are the other 20 Does are. But it shouldn't be too difficult to tell of the people listed on the Production Team and the Marketing Team including a VFX guy name Tobias Ritcher, who is making a solid income from all of the Trek fan-films since like forever.
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