Agent Carter - Season 2

[Star Wolf]

I often wonder what the Bixby Hulk would've been like if General Ross had been a character, at least. I wonder who could've played him. (Maybe John Vernon, who voiced Ross in the '90s cartoon.)

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Hiding from a National Enquirer type reporter who nobody believed kept a real this might be possible focus. Being able to hide from a government actively hunting for you put you into the A-Team camp. Or maybe we were just more innocent back then on what it would take to hide.

 

[Christopher]

Hiding from a National Enquirer type reporter who nobody believed kept a real this might be possible focus. Being able to hide from a government actively hunting for you put you into the A-Team camp. Or maybe we were just more innocent back then on what it would take to hide.

I dunno, other shows have had their wandering heroes able to hide from government agents (like Starman, say). Maybe Ross would believe in the Hulk but have trouble getting full support from his superiors. And I'm not proposing making him a regular in place of McGee -- more a recurring character to add a new element to the dynamic. Might be interesting to see how Ross and McGee would've gotten along. If it had come late enough in the series, after McGee knew the Hulk was a person who transformed and had developed some sympathy for that man, he might actively hide what he knew from Ross and oppose Ross's plan to kill the Hulk. There could've been stories where McGee somehow helped David/the Hulk elude Ross, although presumably without seeing David's face.

 

[Greg Cox]

Poor Rick Jones. Three (four?) live-action HULK's to date and he has yet to make an appearance onscreen. Is that any way to treat the guy who ended the first Kree-Skrull War?

 

[Christopher]

Poor Rick Jones. Three (four?) live-action HULK's to date and he has yet to make an appearance onscreen. Is that any way to treat the guy who ended the first Kree-Skrull War?

He has been in at least a couple of the animated shows, though.

 

[Reverend]

I did geek out at the historic event of a disembodied JARVIS voice coming from Starks home for the very first time.

I'll do you one better than that. I'm pretty sure Mr. Jarvis's "warning, you are not authorised to access this area" recording is the first thing we hear J.A.R.V.I.S. say in 'Iron Man' (not counting the weather report) when the reporter Tony boinked tries to open a door.

 

[kitik]

I really did enjoy this episode. Stark was a blast in most of his scenes. And just like that, he's gone again, so we don't have to worry about him wearing out his welcome.

I think Agent Thompson is a good guy in his heart, so I expect to see him popping up to help Carter and Sousa later in the series.

 

[The Old Mixer]

This bugged me even back in the days of George Reeves and THE ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN. Where were Brainiac and Bizarro and the Bottle of City of Kandor?

They were all in 1958, when Weisinger started to bring in more sci-fi elements, which included establishing much of the Kryptonian mythology of the Silver Age. It was early in that same year that TAoS ended its run.

I always thought that it wouldn't have been that big a deal for them to have brought in Luthor in place of the odd criminal mastermind and/or friendly mad scientist whose inventions got used by criminals.

 

[auntiehill]

I really did enjoy this episode. Stark was a blast in most of his scenes. And just like that, he's gone again, so we don't have to worry about him wearing out his welcome.

I think Agent Thompson is a good guy in his heart, so I expect to see him popping up to help Carter and Sousa later in the series.

I think so, too. He is a bit of a "yes man" but he's also dedicated to his work and upholding the law. He'll come around and end up helping Carter and Sousa in the end--guaranteed.

I love Carter and Sousa; I don't want them to get together as a couple--at least not right now; maybe eventually-- but I do want to continue to see them working together. I think they're adorable together.

 

[RJDiogenes]

Go, Jarvis! He saved Peggy's bacon there.

And, yup, Wilkes is back already. And Peggy isn't buying the commie frame-up for a second. Which makes me wonder if it's not a frame-up. :unsure: And there were the usual mistakes with the incorporeal condition-- I also wondered if he got hungry and thirsty.

They do pretty good with the period atmosphere, but sometimes they slip up with the jargon-- Peggy saying, "The what to where now," sounded a bit too contemporary. I noticed the "Let's do lunch" because I read it here, but there were one or two other examples that I can't think of now.

Similarly, while I love Stark's straightforward open-mindedness, throwing around phrases like "pale and male" makes him sound like a whiny Millennial. But I loved his introduction of womanhood to the all-male club. I don't think most of them minded.

I got the inside joke about the movie-- Kid Colt Outlaw was a real Marvel Comic (Timely back in those days). I didn't get the disembodied voice joke until somebody pointed it out, though. And I'm not even sure how I get it. It must have been in the Avengers movie, because I haven't seen the Iron Man movies.

This bugged me even back in the days of George Reeves and THE ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN. Where were Brainiac and Bizarro and the Bottle of City of Kandor? As much as I enjoyed those old shows as a kid, part of me was always disappointed that they were never as colorful and amazing as the original comics.

To give the old BATMAN series its due: as campy as it was, at least it had honest-to-goodness super-villains, often straight from the comics.

This is why I pretty much never have any interest in comic book adaptations. They always mainstream the magic out of them. I always say the perfect comic-book show would look like Batman and be written by the likes of Englehart or Busiek.

 

[The Old Mixer]

^Yes, Jarvis is the name of the AI in Iron Man's suit and home in the films, and was in The Avengers...but voiced by a different actor than the one playing the flesh-and-blood Jarvis.

 

[Greg Cox]

This is why I pretty much never have any interest in comic book adaptations. They always mainstream the magic out of them. I always say the perfect comic-book show would look like Batman and be written by the likes of Englehart or Busiek.

On the bright side, I think that's a thing of the past. Shows like SUPERGIRL, or THE FLASH, or LEGENDS OF TOMORROW, as well as most of the Marvel movies, are gleefully embracing the more fantastic elements of the comics these days. Heck, we've had time-travel, super-villains, Earth-2, and Gorilla Grodd (!) on THE FLASH alone.

And LEGENDS in particular is about as comic-booky as you can get:

"We need to go back in time to stop an immortal Egyptian high priest from conquering the world a hundred years from now!"

 

[Christopher]

^Yes, Jarvis is the name of the AI in Iron Man's suit and home in the films, and was in The Avengers...but voiced by a different actor than the one playing the flesh-and-blood Jarvis.

Yes, J.A.R.V.I.S. in the films is Paul Bettany, and he's now become The Vision as of Age of Ultron.

Originally, in the comics, Edwin Jarvis was Tony Stark's butler, and by extension, the Avengers' butler (he came with the mansion that Stark lent the Avengers as their HQ). For about 30 years, he was just an employee that Stark rarely had much interaction with, but in 1995, he was retconned into a surrogate father figure who'd been with Tony since childhood, much like Alfred had been retconned to be in '80s Batman comics and after. The movies decided to reimagine him as an AI assistant, essentially merging him with H.O.M.E.R., the AI assistant from the '90s Iron Man comics and animated series. After the movie, the comics followed suit and introduced their own J.A.R.V.I.S. AI, explaining the acronym as "Just A Really Very Intelligent System." Naturally the comics' AI was named after Edwin Jarvis, and now, with Agent Carter introducing Edwin as Howard's butler, we can assume that's true of the movie J.A.R.V.I.S. as well.

 

[JD]

It was a little surprising to see them bringing Wilkes back so soon, even if he is incorporeal. I figured we'd get at least a couple more episodes of everyone thinking he was dead before we saw him again.
Howard Stark was a lot of fun. The scene of him bringing to women into the club was hilarious.
Whitney Frost sucking the guy up with the Element Zero was a surprise for me.
I didn't catch what the Jarvis security system said.

 

[Christopher]

It was a little surprising to see them bringing Wilkes back so soon, even if he is incorporeal. I figured we'd get at least a couple more episodes of everyone thinking he was dead before we saw him again.

It's a short season.

I didn't catch what the Jarvis security system said.

Just something about not being authorized to be on these grounds.

 

[RJDiogenes]

On the bright side, I think that's a thing of the past. Shows like SUPERGIRL, or THE FLASH, or LEGENDS OF TOMORROW, as well as most of the Marvel movies, are gleefully embracing the more fantastic elements of the comics these days. Heck, we've had time-travel, super-villains, Earth-2, and Gorilla Grodd (!) on THE FLASH alone.

And LEGENDS in particular is about as comic-booky as you can get:

"We need to go back in time to stop an immortal Egyptian high priest from conquering the world a hundred years from now!"

I haven't seen any of these, although I've heard good things about them. But even these shows don't look comic booky enough for me.

But Gorilla Grodd? That's pretty good....

 

[Guy Gardener]

You like Gorillas?

What are you feelings on Sharks?

Spoiler: stoopid lazy people, get Netflix already!

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[Sean_McCormick]

Speaking of anachronisms, "Let's do lunch" was a glaring one. That phrase apparently originated in the 1970s.

Well, the planes depicted on the tickets, they found under Wilkes' floor, would de right home in the 70ies too.

 

[Greg Cox]

I haven't seen any of these, although I've heard good things about them. But even these shows don't look comic booky enough for me.

But Gorilla Grodd? That's pretty good....

You should check them out. I mean, when you're talking evil telepathic gorillas and (minor spoiler) Golden Age characters dropping in from Earth-2, you're pretty much going full comic mode.And we've had the likes of Red Tornado and Bizarro showing up on SUPERGIRL, along with numerous flashbacks to Kara growing up on Krypton, the Phantom Zone, etc. The days of "no flights, no tights" seem to be behind us.

Heck, the opening scene of last night's LEGENDS had the Atom shrinking down to micro-size to defuse a nuclear bomb belonging to Vandal Savage . . ..

 

[Christopher]

Yes, we are far past the age of TV superheroes taking on bank robbers and gangsters every week. The various DC and Marvel shows are stripmining the comics for every character and idea they can possibly adapt.

I think the difference is that it used to be that the shows were made by TV studios that merely licensed the rights from the comics companies, and thus preferred to make up their own stuff; but now, DC and Marvel themselves are producing the shows, so they want to own everything in them and thus prefer to have the shows use pre-existing comics characters (or at least use the names of existing comics characters for otherwise distinct roles, like Chief Dooley here or Lance Hunter on Agents of SHIELD) so that they don't have to split royalties with the creators of original TV characters.

 

[LaxScrutiny]

Whitney Frost sucking the guy up with the Element Zero was a surprise for me...

I'm not going to comment on the sexual allegory there...