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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 1

Well I didn't say it was an accurate or good comic book show. ;) But I do still think it appeals to a pretty limited male fanboy crowd compared to something like Supergirl which is clearly trying to be much more approachable and mainstream (much like Lois & Clark back in the day).

Lois & Clark was (IMHO) crap, a show way too focused on Superman and Lois being in love, and with little of what makes Superman Superman (love only was a part of the comic book plots some of the time, not all of it.) This show seems to be focused on Supergirl doing her thing (kick the butt of the big bad), with maybe some romance later on.
 
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Hope Lauren looks alot like Melissa. Good casting for bizarro
 
Lois & Clark was (IMHO) crap, a show way too focused on Superman and Lois being in love, and with little of what makes Superman Superman (love only was a part of the comic book plots some of the time, not all of it.) This show seems to be focused on Supergirl doing her thing (kick the butt of the big bad), with maybe some romance later on.

Well yeah, but it was sort of the main intention of L&C to have a lighter and more romantic tone, and to be a different kind of Superman show. It's not like they made any secret of that.

Supergirl is obviously much more action-focused than that show was (and even darker at times), but it's still got a lot of the same light and comedic spirit at the heart of it.
 
Well yeah, but it was sort of the main intention of L&C to have a lighter and more romantic tone, and to be a different kind of Superman show. It's not like they made any secret of that.

Heck, it's right in the title. Lois and Clark and their relationship were the focus, Superman was secondary. Although they made the Superman element more prominent from season 2 onward.
 
[which would account for "Young Kal-El" being a recurring role

Has this been confirmed?

I kinda figured that role was for:
"For the girl who has everything", in which Kara will experience what her life would be like on Krypton had the whole kerfuffle not happened. If they stayed there, Kal-El would be round that age compared to Kara...
 
Lucy working for Cat? Get ready for more on-site soap opera shenanigans. Kara's shaky reaction to the idea of Lucy being an employee nearby (and spotting the kiss between James & Lucy) keeps that soap opera going (including Cat's accusation that there's "something" going on between Kara and James)...at least until next week's episode, when Cat's son arrives (no, that's not a spoiler) in town.

Cat's "identity" speech....Lucy's "kickass women instead of old white men" and her "i'm not asking you" crack at James...enough already with the girl power / borderline misandry. Its almost a weekly thing, and its tired. The audience gets the show's political position.

JJ teaching Supergirl flight technique was an interesting scene in that she still needs training. Hank states that he's been around for 50 years. Interesting. I wonder if any Golden Age-type flashbacks will be explored.

Winn: I really do not want to see him "join the darkside" for Kara rejecting his romantic advances.

Hank's discovery: good stuff to come. I see Lord setting a trap for round two of JJ's return (bait), now that he knows Supergirl's true identity. On that note, Alex was on a fake date with Lord as part of the mission--she did not let her guard down, so how did he manage to bug her purse?

Toyman's quicksand trap...he's been watching Batman reruns!! The Riddler would be proud!
 
I liked that Toyman wasn't your typical bad guy. Well, he was but they provided a bit of insight into why he does what he does. He was a broken man with little confidence and a lot of anger who got pushed too far. And his son didn't hate him because he was bad, he hated that he might turn out the same way. Nice effort. Is Toyman written like this elsewhere? On a side note, when dad got his job, wouldn't he have signed a contract stating that anything he develops belongs to the company?

Winn had that same scowling look that Henry Cavill had in the Batman v Superman trailers. They looked alike for a moment there. They also dashed fan expectations that he might turn bad because of Kara's rejection. ...for now.

I don't mind the soap opera stuff. In fact I welcome it. I want to see their love lives.
 
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The Toyman stuff didn't do much for me. I think Jeremy Jordan did some good acting, but the character of Winn just doesn't quite work as well as the other characters. I guess the best part was the resonance between Kara and Winn both losing their worlds as teenagers. The hyperaggressiveness of Emma Caulfield's FBI character was kind of weird -- you don't rain down a hail of bullets on an unarmed man just because he doesn't put his hands up.

I have a hard time believing quicksand could trap Supergirl. Sure, in theory, she'd have nothing to push off of, but she can levitate. I also think her plan for dealing with the bombs was implausible. One, I've been to comics conventions, and there's no way in hell you could get a crowd that size to clear out of half the convention floor in less than ten seconds. Two, you couldn't freeze the discrete drops of water from a sprinkler system into a solid wall of ice (and blowing out one sprinkler would only set off that one sprinkler, not the whole system, I think). Three, putting a wall of ice between a bunch of explosives and a crowd of civilians might make things worse, what with all the sharp fragments of shattered ice flying through the air. Really, this was the most ill-conceived super-action sequence the show has done. If she saw that Toyman was in the basement using a tablet to control the bombs, why not just smash through the floor, grab the tablet, and shut them down?

I also have a hard time believing Alex would be so careless as to let Max plant a camera on her purse. You'd think the DEO would've had sensors that would've detected it, since she did go there between her dinner with Lord and her visit to Kara's apartment. And having Lord discover Supergirl's secret identity this early in the series is surprising, though from a Berlanti show, I guess I should've expected it. But it was fun to see Kara just flopping down on the couch to eat pizza and watch TV without changing out of her Supergirl costume. As I've said many times before, I love how much more time she spends in costume than most TV superheroes, how comfortable she seems to be in the outfit. Which makes sense, because it's basically a Kryptonian design with some Earthly flourishes (note that Alura in last week's trial flashbacks wore the same style of belt as Supergirl wears).

I liked that Toyman wasn't your typical bad guy. Well, he was but they provided a bit of insight into why he does what he does. He was a broken man with little confidence and a lot of anger who got pushed too far.

We must have different cultural referents for bad guys, because that pretty much is a typical bad guy in the DC Animated Universe. Tons of villains in Batman: TAS and Superman: TAS, including Toyman, were wronged people who snapped and tried to kill the entitled or corrupt people who wronged them. In the S:TAS version, Schott was seeking revenge on the gangster who'd framed his father for a crime, leading to his death in prison. (So that Toyman was Winslow Schott, Junior -- basically the counterpart of Winn.) His backstory here reminded me of B:TAS's Riddler origin -- having his intellectual property stolen by his boss and seeking revenge for it. (In the post-Crisis comics, he was basically just vengeful against Luthor for firing him.)

The talking jester doll that Toyman left on Winn's desk was based on the design of Toyman from the Super Friends animated series (which was based loosely on a short-lived alternate Toyman from the '70s comics, Jack Nimball).
 
I have a hard time believing quicksand could trap Supergirl. Sure, in theory, she'd have nothing to push off of, but she can levitate. I also think her plan for dealing with the bombs was implausible.
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Three, putting a wall of ice between a bunch of explosives and a crowd of civilians might make things worse, what with all the sharp fragments of shattered ice flying through the air.
I was thinking the same thing about both items.
 
OMG, I liked the reference to the Legion of Doom's Toyman from the 1970s Challenge of the Superfriends. When Winn showed Kara the plush toy, I immediately recognized it. :lol:

Meanwhile, I felt Henshaw's willingness to keep his Martian identity a secret was analogous to being in the closet for a homosexual man. Even Agent Danvers was telling him, "Times have changed [since 50 years ago]."

Ah, poor Winn. First, he was confronted with the prospect of becoming like his murderous father. Now that he has kissed Kara and confessed his feelings, things are going to be awkward, but not necessarily. When Barry did the same to Iris, they remained good friends. But unrequited love sucks.
 
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The talking jester doll that Toyman left on Winn's desk was based on the design of Toyman from the Super Friends animated series (which was based loosely on a short-lived alternate Toyman from the '70s comics, Jack Nimball).

Alex Ross did a version of that Toyman design, too, for his JUSTICE mini-series. There was even an action figure!

And I admit it took me a moment to recognize Emma Caulfield.
 
And I admit it took me a moment to recognize Emma Caulfield.

It took me several moments, because I'm not great with faces. I didn't recognize her until her second scene, when Winn called her name to tell her about the jester doll and she turned her head. And then it took me a moment to remember where I'd seen her before and what her name was.
 
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