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Rey in The Force Awakens (Possible Spoilers)

My mental image is more like a Nagamaki. It would mean cutting down the staff to about half of it's current length though.
 
She's going to be training with Luke's old lightsaber most likely. Considering that it 'called' to her, my guess is she is Luke's daughter & that lightsaber is going to be treated as a family heirloom that connects all the Skywalker generations. If she isn't a skywalker, I don't think she would have such a strong connection to that artifact.

I forget how many years ago they said Kylo attacked the new jedis, but it probably aligns pretty closely to Rey getting dropped of on Jakku at about 5 years old. My guess is she got dropped off by her mom &/or dad, who were getting chased by Kylo & had to stash her somewhere.

Star Wars is the story of the Skywalker family - I'd be surprised if they make only the main villain part of the family but not the main hero.

If true, I wonder if she's continue the proud Skywalker tradition of getting a limb hacked off in the 2nd part of the trilogy.
 
I forget how many years ago they said Kylo attacked the new jedis,

I don't think they actually specified the exact timeline of when that happened.

but it probably aligns pretty closely to Rey getting dropped of on Jakku at about 5 years old. My guess is she got dropped off by her mom &/or dad, who were getting chased by Kylo & had to stash her somewhere.
I am also leaning toward this explanation.

Kor
 
It's kind of amusing (and frustrating) that the old problem is still present for some men: Not being able to like a female protagonist unless she starts out as super-weak and in need of help.

Fans of Ripley would disagree. Or Charlies Angles, Wonder Woman, Emma Peel, ect.

It's almost as if having a kickass female protagonist isn't a new thing.
 
It's kind of amusing (and frustrating) that the old problem is still present for some men: Not being able to like a female protagonist unless she starts out as super-weak and in need of help.

Fans of Ripley would disagree. Or Charlies Angles, Wonder Woman, Emma Peel, ect.

It's almost as if having a kickass female protagonist isn't a new thing.

Yeah exactly, that's a myth. Some people don't like certain characters. It's called having an opinion.

Also, Trinity.
 
I do love that every time people state an obvious tendency for sexism there's somebody who points out some exceptions that somehow are supposed to disprove the whole original statement. Just like there's no racism anymore now that Obama is president. Right? ;)

I suppose we should get back to discussing Star Wars because this isn't going to lead anywhere pretty. :p
 
^ I actually just mentioned that in the movie thread. I have read comments on-line from someone who is proficient with the staff in real life, and he observed that all of Rey's "saber" techniques were actually staff techniques.

Yeah, in terms of surprising lightsaber efficiency, I was more taken aback by how well Finn could wield it so fast, although I'm guessing he learned how to use that Stormtrooper sword weapon thingy and just carried it over.
 
The Stormtrooper weapon thing was one of the few things in the movie that didn't work for me. It just seemed too silly.
 
The Stormtrooper weapon thing was one of the few things in the movie that didn't work for me. It just seemed too silly.

It worked for me, because it fit the theme of "for most of the universe, a weapon is just a weapon."

So having TR-8R go toe to toe with Finn who was carrying and using one of the most iconic weapons in Star Wars history fit that theme. The prequels, and to some extent the OT buffed up lightsabers and made them out to be directly connected to the super awesome Jedi.

But in TFA we saw a formerly brainwashed soldier use a lightsaber, we saw Han use Chewie bowcaster, we saw Kylo using his apparently home made broad saber, there was some attempts to demystify weapon choice, and emphasize combatant skill, talent, and latent Force ability.
 
The Stormtrooper weapon thing was one of the few things in the movie that didn't work for me. It just seemed too silly.

It made me laugh, along with many others in the theaters, although I don't know if that was what was the reaction they wanted. In terms of the old Star War canon, his weapon would make sense since there were vibroblades etc, but in the new canon it's not as clear why he'd have it since the Jedi are supposed to be extinct and I don't see a ton of others carrying around swords, y'know?

In general, I'd prefer more consistency with lightsaber efficiency. Rey's made sense since she had the staff, but Finn seemed overly accustomed with it. However, you can go back to Revenge of the Sith and see Palpatine kill three Jedi Masters with ease after they forgot how to use their lightsabers so it's a recurring Star Wars problem. At this point, it's something I just have to shrug away.
 
My issue with the scene wasn't the lightsaber. It was the "Staged Fight In The Middle Of The Battlefield" trope that seemed rather silly to me.
It's a minor gripe, it doesn't hurt my enjoyment of the movie at all.
 
The First Order would want to be prepared to deal with people wielding lightsabers. For all they knew, Luke Skywalker could be at some secret base training a thousand Jedi students at once, and they might show up any day now.

In the (now defunct) context of the old EU, and even considering General Grievous's droid guards in ROTS, energized melee weapons do make sense.

As for Finn being able to swing a lightsaber around (and it's not like he did a particularly excellent job at it), he was probably trained in close-quarters fighting with a handheld weapon just like the trooper he was battling.

Kor
 
^ I actually just mentioned that in the movie thread. I have read comments on-line from someone who is proficient with the staff in real life, and he observed that all of Rey's "saber" techniques were actually staff techniques.
Makes me wonder if, when she builds her own lightsaber, she'll make a staff instead of the typical sword-sized grip.

Like.... maybe a "double-bladed" light saber? ;)

Maybe with a little more staff and a little less blade?
http://furiousfanboys.com/2015/09/the-5-craziest-force-awakens-fan-theories/2/
 
Ok, I'm gonna say it. Veering from common thought, I don't think Rey is Luke's daughter. Never did. It just doesn't make any logical sense as a story. Every Force user left can't all be of the same bloodline, Luke, Leia, Kylo Ren, & now Rey too? I don't see it. There must be more than the Skywalker line here. Truth be told, I think she's Obi-Wan's granddaughter. Ben's all up in her dream sequence. Maz & Rey refer to Luke only as Luke, no hint of a relation to it. She is inherently adept at force pushing minds, as well as anyone we've seen, short of Obi-Wan himself. She even speaks with the same accent, unlike everybody else around her. They're the only heroes who do. The rest all sound American.

That sword isn't Luke's sword. Luke's is green now. That BLUE sword is Excalibur, which is why Kylo Ren thinks it belongs to him, & why Luke never keeps it, but stores it with someone, & actually never takes it from Rey in that really lengthy final shot. It's not his sword. It was made by Anakin, & he forsakes it for the red one. The person who possesses that blue sword the longest is Obi-Wan Kenobi, & Obi-wan is the only person who has consistently fought with blue swords. That sword is hers now. It's not a family heirloom. It's held nothing but grief. It is the conflict sword, that clashed against a brother Jedi when Anakin raised it against Obi-Wan, & it fell to Luke only so that it may find its way to its final hand, a Kenobi who must face another Skywalker.

Doesn't that seem more well rounded?
 
I wouldn't say Anakin forsook his blue saber, exactly. Obi-Wan incapacitated him and took it away. Anakin wasn't really in a position to do anything about it.

I might have have to watch ROTS again (shudder) to see how that scene played out.

Kor
 
I wouldn't say Anakin forsook his blue saber, exactly. Obi-Wan incapacitated him and took it away. Anakin wasn't really in a position to do anything about it.

I might have have to watch ROTS again (shudder) to see how that scene played out.

Kor

I think that's more or less it. I seem to recall Anakin's severed arm/hand lying there grasping the saber and it's twitching or Anakin's motioning towards it but he's in no position to get over there quick or mentally focused enough to summon it, Obi-Won picks up and stalks off to go watch Padme give-up on life because what woman who just gave birth to two kids has anything to live for?

I mean, her husband just killed dozens of people, including children so he was kind-of an asshole. No, I'm sorry, he couldn't possibly do that. I mean, it's not like he's killed dozens of people, including innocent women and children, before and then told this to her face while pouting or anything.

Wait...

God, those fucking movies suck.
 
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