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Star Wars: The Force Awakens Discussion (HERE THERE BE SPOILERS)

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<<I was able to go in completely unspoiled (took a bit of effort!), >>

How in the world did you manage that? :lol:
 
I just saw it for the first time, my first impression is uncertain. It was interesting, had some good humor & visuals. I wasn't really moved by it much, so I'll need some time to think about it. It has the Abrams brand of rushed clutter that makes it hard to organize my thoughts.

I liked Fin. I liked the pilot whose name I can't recall. Ray was alright, I didn't really get her character though. Super angry but selfless? A strange mix of character traits. Obviously they are setting up some reveal about her backstory. Ren was a bit goofy, but ok. Gollum was ok.

I'm not sure what's going on with the Empire & Republic. The Republic seems to not be fighting the Empire at all, but secretly funding independent freelance rebels? Bleh, should be Empire vs Republic. Abrams blew up like 5 planets, no idea who they were.
 
I don't know if this has already been mentioned elsewhere in this thread, but I just learned two Easter Eggs about the film. The first had me smiling and the second, while cool and a physical connection to a major character from the six previous films, was a little creepy.

1. The First Order Stormtrooper that Rey mind-tricks into releasing her from captivity and leaving her interrogation chamber door open so she can escape? That's the Stormtrooper who was played by Daniel Craig. :)

2. The gritty, sand-like material that Kylo Ren drops his helmet into as he's interrogating Rey inside that same chamber? There was no explanation in the film itself as to what that stuff was and I haven't read the movie's novelization, but apparently that gritty residue is none other than the cremated remains of Anakin Skywalker which were retrieved from the long-extinguished funeral pyre on Endor when Darth Vader's partially-melted helmet was recovered.

So....Anakin does appear in all seven films thus far. Technically. ;)
 
Ew. I thought I was joking when I said to my friend 'Wouldn't it be funny if the remains Anakin's head were meant to still be in that helmet?'

I like to imagine how Anakin's ghost reacts to all Kylo's 'Grandpa! Pay attention to me!' shenanigans.

 
but apparently that gritty residue is none other than the cremated remains of Anakin Skywalker which were retrieved from the long-extinguished funeral pyre on Endor when Darth Vader's partially-melted helmet was recovered.
According to who?

Anakin became a Force ghost, and if we follow the only other two examples of that we have, his body would have done a disappearing act. It could be material from the funeral pyre itself though, maybe?
 
Ew. I thought I was joking when I said to my friend 'Wouldn't it be funny if the remains Anakin's head were meant to still be in that helmet?'

I like to imagine how Anakin's ghost reacts to all Kylo's 'Grandpa! Pay attention to me!' shenanigans.

What I'd like to know is why Anakin hasn't appeared in his spectral form to set that kid right.
 
ONE DOES NOT SIMPLY FORGET ABOUT LIAM NEESON!!!

And not just Qui-Gon, but we didn't see Anakin's body disappear on-screen. It's always been assumed and implied that Luke brought his father's body along with the Vader armor down to Endor to burn them together on the funeral pyre. Anakin's body was still inside the armor at the time.

If Anakin's body was meant to Force-vanish in the moments after his physical death I'm sure we'd have known about it by now, either in the old Expanded Universe or the new.
 
I don't know if this has already been mentioned elsewhere in this thread, but I just learned two Easter Eggs about the film. The first had me smiling and the second, while cool and a physical connection to a major character from the six previous films, was a little creepy.

1. The First Order Stormtrooper that Rey mind-tricks into releasing her from captivity and leaving her interrogation chamber door open so she can escape? That's the Stormtrooper who was played by Daniel Craig. :)

2. The gritty, sand-like material that Kylo Ren drops his helmet into as he's interrogating Rey inside that same chamber? There was no explanation in the film itself as to what that stuff was and I haven't read the movie's novelization, but apparently that gritty residue is none other than the cremated remains of Anakin Skywalker which were retrieved from the long-extinguished funeral pyre on Endor when Darth Vader's partially-melted helmet was recovered.

So....Anakin does appear in all seven films thus far. Technically. ;)



I figured they were Anakin/Vaders ashes while watching the movie. Kylo or someone else went to the ewok home world to get the helmet and of course the ashes were still there. I think Kylo throwing the helmet in the ashes were to let us know they came as a set.:)
 
Qui-Gon becomes a Force Ghost. He's the one who teaches Yoda and Obi-Wan to become Force Ghosts. This is in the end of ROTS and is canon.
 
I don't know if this has already been mentioned elsewhere in this thread, but I just learned two Easter Eggs about the film. The first had me smiling and the second, while cool and a physical connection to a major character from the six previous films, was a little creepy.

1. The First Order Stormtrooper that Rey mind-tricks into releasing her from captivity and leaving her interrogation chamber door open so she can escape? That's the Stormtrooper who was played by Daniel Craig. :)

2. The gritty, sand-like material that Kylo Ren drops his helmet into as he's interrogating Rey inside that same chamber? There was no explanation in the film itself as to what that stuff was and I haven't read the movie's novelization, but apparently that gritty residue is none other than the cremated remains of Anakin Skywalker which were retrieved from the long-extinguished funeral pyre on Endor when Darth Vader's partially-melted helmet was recovered.

So....Anakin does appear in all seven films thus far. Technically. ;)

I knew about Daniel Craig and I thought that might've been Anakin's ashes but I then I thought it was kind of odd to have them there in the open.
 
I don't know if this has already been mentioned elsewhere in this thread, but I just learned two Easter Eggs about the film. The first had me smiling and the second, while cool and a physical connection to a major character from the six previous films, was a little creepy.

1. The First Order Stormtrooper that Rey mind-tricks into releasing her from captivity and leaving her interrogation chamber door open so she can escape? That's the Stormtrooper who was played by Daniel Craig. :)

2. The gritty, sand-like material that Kylo Ren drops his helmet into as he's interrogating Rey inside that same chamber? There was no explanation in the film itself as to what that stuff was and I haven't read the movie's novelization, but apparently that gritty residue is none other than the cremated remains of Anakin Skywalker which were retrieved from the long-extinguished funeral pyre on Endor when Darth Vader's partially-melted helmet was recovered.

So....Anakin does appear in all seven films thus far. Technically. ;)

I knew about Daniel Craig and I thought that might've been Anakin's ashes but I then I thought it was kind of odd to have them there in the open.

Vader's going to be upset. You know how much he hates sand.
 
Ew. I thought I was joking when I said to my friend 'Wouldn't it be funny if the remains Anakin's head were meant to still be in that helmet?'

I like to imagine how Anakin's ghost reacts to all Kylo's 'Grandpa! Pay attention to me!' shenanigans.

What I'd like to know is why Anakin hasn't appeared in his spectral form to set that kid right.

That's the thing though: Kylo Ren idolizes Darth Vader (mighty Sith Lord), not Anakin Skywalker (man who "gave in to sentiment" to save his son).
 
Ew. I thought I was joking when I said to my friend 'Wouldn't it be funny if the remains Anakin's head were meant to still be in that helmet?'

I like to imagine how Anakin's ghost reacts to all Kylo's 'Grandpa! Pay attention to me!' shenanigans.

What I'd like to know is why Anakin hasn't appeared in his spectral form to set that kid right.
That's the thing though: Kylo Ren idolizes Darth Vader (mighty Sith Lord), not Anakin Skywalker (man who "gave in to sentiment" to save his son).
Which is why Anakin needs to show up and set him right. This is his grandson, after all.
 
So much was made about Kylo's Vader worship, anyone thinking he's going to get Vadered up in the next movie? Gets bitched up by Rey, ends up needing to go into the Vader armor. Though with Anakin's (presumed) ashes and the helmet...please...please...no Anakin clones. And no reveal the Snoke is Anakin's creator.
 
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