Star Wars Rebels Season Two (spoilers)

[JD]

I don't know if I'd say TCW really had a POV character. There was to much jumping around, focusing on different characters for there to be a specific POV character. She was the kid character they put in so the kids watching the show would have someone to related to more than the adult Jedi and Clones.

 

[Christopher]

^I think that's what billcosby meant, that she was the audience-identification figure.

 

[Stephen!]

Future of the Force establishes that she can best both Inquisitors at once - while Kanan and Ezra aren't able to make a dent in them.

Maybe Kanan is just more effective against Inquisitors when he has two lightsabers.

 

[Christopher]

Or Ahsoka is Just That Awesome (TM).

 

[Cutter John]

Maybe Kanan is just more effective against Inquisitors when he has two lightsabers.

Or is only fighting one opponent, or holding back because of the mission.

 

[Saga]

And why in the world does Seventh Sister wear a face mask most of the time? To save on animation?

i was wondering about that too. i think Seventh Sister looks more interesting with the face mask though.

 

[Christopher]

Isn't it kind of a Star Wars thing to wear face-concealing helmets, though? Clone Troopers, Stormtroopers, Mandalorians, Darth Vader, Kylo Ren, etc. It seems to be a popular fashion.

 

[P0sitr0nic]

Ahsoka was never a Jedi, persay. She was a washed out padawan. Not her fault, but true. This also explained why Anakin was so angry at the council for not making him a master. He trained a padawan, and they made her quit.

No. That's not true, on at least two accounts.

First of all, the Jedi Council didn't make Ahsoka quit. On the contrary, they asked her to remain a Jedi. Ahsoka elected to quit, because she believed that the Jedi had lost faith in her and only belatedly regained it.

Secondly, she didn't wash out. Again, she had been asked by the leadership to remain. To be washed out means to be dismissed for failing to measure up to the expected standards. That does not describe Ahsoka's condition.

Whatever you wanna call it, all i meant was that she was never knighted. And it was thru the actions of the council that made it so.

 

[Ithekro]

I wonder if Anakin petitioned for her to be the 21st bust of the Lost Jedi after Dooku's 20th bust in the Library.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Ahsoka was never a Jedi, persay. She was a washed out padawan. Not her fault, but true. This also explained why Anakin was so angry at the council for not making him a master. He trained a padawan, and they made her quit.

No. That's not true, on at least two accounts.

First of all, the Jedi Council didn't make Ahsoka quit. On the contrary, they asked her to remain a Jedi. Ahsoka elected to quit, because she believed that the Jedi had lost faith in her and only belatedly regained it.

Secondly, she didn't wash out. Again, she had been asked by the leadership to remain. To be washed out means to be dismissed for failing to measure up to the expected standards. That does not describe Ahsoka's condition.

Whatever you wanna call it, all i meant was that she was never knighted. And it was thru the actions of the council that made it so.

It was because of the actions of the Jedi Council that she decided not to accept the Council's offer to stay. The Council didn't make her quit, and they never made the decision not to knight her.

 

[Skywalker]

I wonder if Anakin petitioned for her to be the 21st bust of the Lost Jedi after Dooku's 20th bust in the Library.

The Lost Twenty never actually made it into canon. The scene mentioning them was left out of the final cut of AOTC, and it hasn't been brought up in any other canon material.

Fine by me, anyway. Losing only twenty Jedi in over a thousand generations' worth of history is...unlikely.

 

[Christopher]

Fine by me, anyway. Losing only twenty Jedi in over a thousand generations' worth of history is...unlikely.

Did they check under the sofa cushions?

 

[Set Harth]

I wonder if Anakin petitioned for her to be the 21st bust of the Lost Jedi after Dooku's 20th bust in the Library.

The Lost Twenty never actually made it into canon. The scene mentioning them was left out of the final cut of AOTC, and it hasn't been brought up in any other canon material.

It was canon at one point, before it wasn't. Prior to the Great Decanonization, it made it into sources such as the book Dark Lord.

 

[Skywalker]

I wonder if Anakin petitioned for her to be the 21st bust of the Lost Jedi after Dooku's 20th bust in the Library.

The Lost Twenty never actually made it into canon. The scene mentioning them was left out of the final cut of AOTC, and it hasn't been brought up in any other canon material.

It was canon at one point, before it wasn't. Prior to the Great Decanonization, it made it into sources such as the book Dark Lord.

Yeah, I'm well aware of that. But it's not anymore, and hasn't been reintroduced yet.

 

[Reverend]

Well technically it was never canon, nor was *anything* else in the EU. That whole "tiered canon system" nonsense seemed like it just there to keep the fanboys happy. Because woe betide anyone who tells a rabid fanfan they just spent all that money on a 32 issue comic series, or hardback novel, or video game or pack of fecking trading cards and it's not even a *little* bit canon.

So yeah, there was no "de-canonisation" at all but a canonisation of TCW, Rebels and everything new from that point onwards since before then, only the movies were actually canon and Lucas would just pull things from the EU he thought looked cool if and when he felt like it and in whatever context he chose to do so.

And as for the "lost 20" thing, I'm pretty sure the intent there was actually "20 lost in the last thousand years", since the prequels seemed to want to swap the word "generations" with "years". It's only relatively recently that they've officially slid back to the idea of the order being older than that, though I don't think they've ever explicitly brought up the 25,000 year timeline thing again.
AFAIK all they've done to touch on it is a few mentions in the new novels of the "hundred years darkness" or something when presumably the Sith Empire ruled the galaxy, plus a few inferences in TCW about the "Old Republic", as in older than the one that hadn't quite fallen yet. So I suppose that would now make it the...Very Old Republic? The Even Older Republic? The Ancient Republic? Republic Classic™?

 

[P0sitr0nic]

"It's only relatively recently that they've officially slid back to the idea of the order being older than that, though I don't think they've ever explicitly brought up the 25,000 year timeline thing again."


Where have they mentioned this in a newcanon story? Im actually curious...

 

[publiusr]

^ The Tie Fighter PC game conceived of Interdictors as gravity well generators (mentioned in one of the mission briefings).

I seem to remember them in West End Games as well.

These animated stories are a nice way to clean up around the edges of what we see in the main films. I'd be tempted to use a time travel story to show a potential future (what we know as the EU) that Imperial remnant forces thwarted--explaining the new JJ timeline.

Done before, I know...still

 

[Ithekro]

West End Games Imperial Sourcebook was the source of the Interdictor according to the Story Group.

 

[Christopher]

I'd be tempted to use a time travel story to show a potential future (what we know as the EU) that Imperial remnant forces thwarted--explaining the new JJ timeline.

Somehow, time travel is a trope that Star Wars seems to have completely avoided, making it unusual among sci-fi franchises.

And it's not "the JJ timeline." Abrams is not the primary creator as he is on Star Trek. Kathleen Kennedy runs Lucasfilm and is overseeing the entire new Star Wars film series. Abrams is merely one of the writers and directors they've hired. He's directed The Force Awakens and co-written it with Lawrence Kasdan and Michael Arndt, and he and Bryan Burk are among its multiple producers, but he's only involved with that single film. Episode VIII will be written and directed by Rian Johnson; Episode IX will be directed by Colin Trevorrow; Rogue One will be written by Gary Whitta and directed by Gareth Edwards; and the Han Solo prequel film will be written by Lawrence Kasdan and his son and directed by Phil Lord and Chris Miller. The one unifying creator over the whole thing is Kathleen Kennedy. It is not "the JJ timeline" any more than it is the Rian timeline or the Colin timeline or the Gary timeline. It's the Kathleen timeline.

 

[Reverend]

"It's only relatively recently that they've officially slid back to the idea of the order being older than that, though I don't think they've ever explicitly brought up the 25,000 year timeline thing again."


Where have they mentioned this in a newcanon story? Im actually curious...

I think the "hundred years darkness" by way of Sith rule was referenced briefly in the Tarkin novel and there's some stuff in TCW that makes oblique references to that period like the lightsabre master builder droid who's been on that Jedi ship (which spots the Old Republic seal from the SWTOR MMO no less) for *over* a thousand years and the Mandalorian Deathwatch bloke who's name I forget (Vizlar?) bragging about how the darksabre was looted from the Jedi Temple "during the fall of the Old Republic". Sidious also mentions how the old Sith Empire was built on the backs of slaves in the two or three parter that dealt with the race of slavers.

It's mostly oblique references so far, but it looks like the official canon is that there was an "Old Republic" and it fell, followed by a century of Sith rule. From what's said in the PT about the Sith having thought to have been "extinct for a millennium", the Republic not having fought a war or had a standing army in a thousand years and so forth we can safely intimate that the Jedi eventually defeated the Sith and helped restore the Republic.