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Special guest announced for Christmas (spoilers)

I think the difference is between making a story that takes place over Christmas and making a story specifically *about* Christmas. Personally, I prefer the former.
The movie 'Gremlins' is like that but I still see it in the Christmas themed movie section at the public library.
 
Well, okay, there is that. :lol: But still, that's just trappings, that's not about Christmas like all of Moffat's have been.

I don't think "The Snowmen" particularly Christmassy. I don't even remember if it takes place at Christmas, or just in winter.

It does take place around Christmas but like you say it isn't particularly Christmassy which does dent the "All Moffat's Christmas specials are eleventy stupid notion" Most of them, yes, but not all! :lol:

I would agree that "The Snowmen" is more wintry than Christmassy. It's no more Christmassy than "Voyage of the Damned" or "The End of Time, Part 1." And while "The Doctor, the Widow, & the Wardrobe" is full of schmaltz, it's a story that still works independently of its Christmas setting.

While there's a lot of Christmas elements in "A Christmas Carol," that's a great story and a great twist on the classic Dickens story. Besides, Doctor Who is far from the first series to do its own take on A Christmas Carol. Nearly everyone else has done it-- Bugs Bunny, Mickey Mouse, Mr. Magoo, the Muppets, Animaniacs, Xena, etc.

I also think "Last Christmas" is one of the better Christmas specials. Nick Frost is great as Santa Claus. The theme of "Every Christmas might be the last Christmas" dovetails quite poignantly with Danny Pink's death. And it has one of the top 3 funniest Doctor Who lines ever: "There's a horror movie called "Alien"? That's really offensive. No wonder they keep invading you." :guffaw:

As for River being in the Christmas special, I'm looking forward to it. Generally, I'm not a fan of the one-off special companions. But River is an exceptional exception! :techman:
 
Radio Times posted an article today where Moffat reveals when in River Song's timeline, the Christmas Special will take place in:

SPOILERS!
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-11-23/steven-moffat-explains-exactly-when-the-doctor-who-christmas-special-takes-place-in-river-songs-life

Suffice to say, I can't wait to see River's reactions to Capaldi's Doctor.

Honestly, I would have preferred for it to be earlier in her timeline. I think it would be funnier if this were clearly her first time encountering any Doctor besides Matt Smith. Like, say, putting this episode after "The Wedding of River Song" but before "A Good Man Goes to War."
 
Radio Times posted an article today where Moffat reveals when in River Song's timeline, the Christmas Special will take place in:

SPOILERS!
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-11-23/steven-moffat-explains-exactly-when-the-doctor-who-christmas-special-takes-place-in-river-songs-life

Suffice to say, I can't wait to see River's reactions to Capaldi's Doctor.

Honestly, I would have preferred for it to be earlier in her timeline. I think it would be funnier if this were clearly her first time encountering any Doctor besides Matt Smith. Like, say, putting this episode after "The Wedding of River Song" but before "A Good Man Goes to War."

I'm trying to think of a reason why that exact moment in River's timeline. (Speaking of Moffat's decision to set this immediately after "Angels Take Manhattan," that is.)

River's just watched her parents disappear and her husband emotionally break. And now the twelfth Doctor is going to watch River flirt with and kiss other men because she thinks her husband isn't looking? Maybe that's the way River copes.

This isn't quite making sense to me. At least, not yet.

I'm really curious to see how 12 and River play off of each other. I bought the chemistry between 11 and River. Different Doctor, different chemistry.
 
"It’s Christmas Day on a remote human colony and the Doctor is hiding from Christmas Carols and Comedy Antlers. But when a crashed spaceship calls upon the Doctor for help, he finds himself recruited into River Song’s squad and hurled into a fast and frantic chase across the galaxy.

King Hydroflax (Greg Davies) is furious, and his giant Robot bodyguard is out-of-control and coming for them all! Will Nardole (Matt Lucas) survive? And when will River Song work out who the Doctor is?

All will be revealed on a starliner full of galactic super-villains and a destination the Doctor has been avoiding for a very long time."

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Radio Times posted an article today where Moffat reveals when in River Song's timeline, the Christmas Special will take place in:

SPOILERS!
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-11-23/steven-moffat-explains-exactly-when-the-doctor-who-christmas-special-takes-place-in-river-songs-life

Suffice to say, I can't wait to see River's reactions to Capaldi's Doctor.

Honestly, I would have preferred for it to be earlier in her timeline. I think it would be funnier if this were clearly her first time encountering any Doctor besides Matt Smith. Like, say, putting this episode after "The Wedding of River Song" but before "A Good Man Goes to War."

I'm trying to think of a reason why that exact moment in River's timeline. (Speaking of Moffat's decision to set this immediately after "Angels Take Manhattan," that is.)

River's just watched her parents disappear and her husband emotionally break. And now the twelfth Doctor is going to watch River flirt with and kiss other men because she thinks her husband isn't looking? Maybe that's the way River copes.

This isn't quite making sense to me. At least, not yet.

I'm really curious to see how 12 and River play off of each other. I bought the chemistry between 11 and River. Different Doctor, different chemistry.

IIRC the official sequence of River's timelines places 'Angels Take Manhattan' right before the Doctor's last night with her before she goes to the Library, so this actually makes the most sense and is probably the least problematic place for *any* further adventures with River.

Just as any additional adventures with the 11th Doctor they may choose to mention would probably take place either in that period of a few hundred years while he's swanning around, waving at the Ponds throughout history and any new 10th Doctor stuff would be in the period where he was avoiding the Ood's call to return and so on and so forth.
 
I'm excited to see The 12th Doctor and River Song interact, it should be good. Plus, just seeing River again is cool.
 
I'm hoping we get some great poignant character moments between River Song and the Doctor. I feel that with River recently losing her parents and the Doctor recently losing Clara, that is a recipe for some great emotional dialogue between them. And both actors are quite capable of pulling it off.
 
This will be Matt Lucas's second Doctor Who Christmas story; he was in 2002's The One Doctor with Colin's Doctor. The story also contains Doctor Who's first Weakest Link parody.
 
All will be revealed on a starliner full of galactic super-villains and a destination the Doctor has been avoiding for a very long time."

Since this is a River episode, I wonder if the destination could be The Library?
 
The name of the Christmas episode has leaked. Fandango, the tickets sales department listed it as...


"The Husband of River Song"

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It could be River doesn't know about Twelve because she only knows 1 to 11 up to trenzelore
 
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