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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 1

The solution to Livewire was one of those moments. They come up with this convoluted doohickey to stop her, it doesn't work, and then, only in the heat of the moment, does somebody think to spray a water hose on her...?
 
Car Door.

Worked great last week.

Kara should conduct a survey to see how many of her enemies are allergic to a car door being flung at them at a 140 mph.
 
I just thought of something. There has been concern about the shows ratings. Than I would certainly watch it on DVR soon. It certainly counts. I believe before the weekend from what I have heard on other series. I am not personally concerned with the showa ratings. I think the show will be fine. But just a suggestion. If you are going to watch it before next weeks episode anyways better to watch it soon.
 
How continuity obsessed and internet/news savvy is the anticipated audience?

%100 continuity obsessed and internet/news savvy = Zero people watching till next week.

%0.00 continuity obsessed and internet/news savvy = No change to the ratings whatsoever after changing the episode order.

Although...

If it turns out that instead of 2 million viewers today, that there were 7 viewers total, Supergirl would have taken a hit that would finally teach the other networks not to stray from continuity if it's a given that your audience are continuity fetishists.

Supergirl The Series would nobly die to improve all TV for future generations.

Imagine how the Jocks would react if they played the next Superbowl out of order?
 
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Love triangle, I see you!

I hope that triangle dissolves soon. "Will they? / Won't thay?" plots are among the most tiresome of all. It seems that one of he cornerstones of the series was to set up an eventual relationship between K & J, but if the hurt-feelings-bumpy-road / pushing-one-in-a-wrong-direction stuff can be brushed aside.
 
A couple of thoughts...

1) These characters love having super-private conversations (about Supergirl, about the DEO) in public. Seriously, people, tone it down.

2) I don't think Cat knows Kara's secret, but their professional relationship has mellowed a great deal. I doubt it's because Cat has suspicions; as James noted a few weeks ago, Cat doesn't "see" Kara. This is how Cat has no idea who Winn is, even though he sits right outside her office; he never comes into her field of vision. But Cat has started to notice Kara, and that could go either way down the road.

3) Dean Cain! I think I loved seeing Dean Cain more than anything else last night. I'm quite curious to discover the secrets around Dr. Jeremiah Danvers.
 
If you add Lucy, isn't it a love square?

Although it's not even a love Triangle, since none of them is in love with any two other people except Jimmy who "loves" Lucy and Kara.

Kara doesn't see Winn like that.

She sees straight through him.
 
A couple of thoughts...

1) These characters love having super-private conversations (about Supergirl, about the DEO) in public. Seriously, people, tone it down.

2) I don't think Cat knows Kara's secret, but their professional relationship has mellowed a great deal. I doubt it's because Cat has suspicions; as James noted a few weeks ago, Cat doesn't "see" Kara. This is how Cat has no idea who Winn is, even though he sits right outside her office; he never comes into her field of vision. But Cat has started to notice Kara, and that could go either way down the road.

3) Dean Cain! I think I loved seeing Dean Cain more than anything else last night. I'm quite curious to discover the secrets around Dr. Jeremiah Danvers.
I imagine he giggled a bit when he read the script and saw the line "I know everything about Superman!" :lol:
 
If you add Lucy, isn't it a love square?

Although it's not even a love Triangle, since none of them is in love with any two other people except Jimmy who "loves" Lucy and Kara.

Kara doesn't see Winn like that.

She sees straight through him.

I'm not really thinking of it as a "love triangle," either. Rather, I'm seeing Winn and Lucy as the speed bumps in the road for Kara and James. And, really, Winn barely counts as a speed bump because he's been so completely friendzoned.

Unrequited love powered Peanuts for a long, long time, but I suspect that Winn's schtick may grow tiring by Christmas if it stays as it is.
 
2) I don't think Cat knows Kara's secret, but their professional relationship has mellowed a great deal. I doubt it's because Cat has suspicions; as James noted a few weeks ago, Cat doesn't "see" Kara. This is how Cat has no idea who Winn is, even though he sits right outside her office; he never comes into her field of vision. But Cat has started to notice Kara, and that could go either way down the road..

"You go down stairs 40 floors to get security Kara, and I'll wait here with the psychotic super powered killing machine intent on killing me dead while you come back up 40 floors with a dipshit over weight half blind 70 year old rentacop armed with a heavy flashlight... So that's like 45 minutes right? I'll see you in 45 minutes, because I won't already have been murdered, I'll see you back here in 45 minutes with the least help imaginable because if you are only a non super powered human being, I'm positive that the first thing you'll want to do when get the the lobby and you're safe, is that you'll come back right up here to get electrocuted to death by the maniac up here like I've already been."

Seriously, it's in the script "Go down 40 floors and get security"

:guffaw:

That is a classic super hero excuse effect a swift exit to cover up for a secret identity, except that Cat made it for Kara and not the other way around because Cat can lie faster than the maid of Steel and Cat needed her to suit the #### up faster because her life was on the line.
 
Allyn Gibson said:
3) Dean Cain! I think I loved seeing Dean Cain more than anything else last night. I'm quite curious to discover the secrets around Dr. Jeremiah Danvers.
I imagine he giggled a bit when he read the script and saw the line "I know everything about Superman!" :lol:

I had a similar thought!

I also entertained the thought that he really is Superman, albeit one from somewhere else in the multiverse. There, his Earth was destroyed, and in this universe, he doesn't have powers.

Then I realized I was being silly. He has a doctorate, and those don't grow on trees, so he has a long and established -- and documented! -- life. So he really is just Jeremiah Danvers.

I was also thinking last night, to complicate the love-triangle-that-isn't, Supergirl could adapt the first Mon-El story, but instead of Superboy finding Lar Gand, it's Supergirl, and then they have a brief, whirlwind romance (while beating up on some super-villain of the week) before his allergy to lead forces him to leave Earth.
 
I had a thought after last nights's episode. Looking at Hank Henshaw's history in the comics, he started out as a human technopath who died thus freeing his consciousness to merge with technology. He found his way to Superman's birthing matrix in earth orbit and essentially made a clone of Superman as a new body - the Cyborg Superman was born.

In the New 52, it's been revealed that the Cyborg Superman is not Hank Henshaw but instead Kara's father Zor-el after being altered by Brainiac.

What if the tv series is combining the two general ideas in a new way?

We now know that Dean Cain's character (Kara's adoptive father) worked directly with Henshaw. What if Henshaw ends up using an altered clone of Dean Cain's body? Could they give us Dean Cain as the Cyborg Superman? It would be pretty genius in my opinion.
 
The actors are attractive and pretty good, but the writing is generic, fannish connect-the-dots motivation and dialogue. I can't identify with anyone in it, not because the actors aren't giving it their best but because they're given schematic check-list dialogue that's just about impossible to wring any subtext out of.

Pass.
 
The solution to Livewire was one of those moments. They come up with this convoluted doohickey to stop her, it doesn't work, and then, only in the heat of the moment, does somebody think to spray a water hose on her...?

Eh, Bruce Timm and Co. did it better:

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovxvhLjPZWg[/yt]

Still, at least she was a villain I could like.
 
That itunes question is answered. iTunes released Live Wire on schedule, though, annoyingly labeled episode 4. That little voice at the back of my head assures me, that this won't be switched back once the other episode is released as well, but we'll see.

Anyway... double feature next week for me.
iTunes viewings do not count into the ratings anyway, so no harm in holding back.
 
I actually turned it off mid-episode. Sorry folks, I am bailing on this one. Mind numbingly boring, almost painful cliches, it's just too much.

I will wait till it is on streaming and then shotgun a few episodes at a time, maybe.
 
If you add Lucy, isn't it a love square?

Although it's not even a love Triangle, since none of them is in love with any two other people except Jimmy who "loves" Lucy and Kara.

Kara doesn't see Winn like that.

She sees straight through him.


I'm not really thinking of it as a "love triangle," either. Rather, I'm seeing Winn and Lucy as the speed bumps in the road for Kara and James. And, really, Winn barely counts as a speed bump because he's been so completely friendzoned.

Unrequited love powered Peanuts for a long, long time, but I suspect that Winn's schtick may grow tiring by Christmas if it stays as it is.

Though I believe the series will continue to have the "conflict" of Lucy push Kara into an unnatural relationship--of whatever kind--with Winn--just to avoid a straight march to what reads as the relationship plan from the start.


The actors are attractive and pretty good, but the writing is generic, fannish connect-the-dots motivation and dialogue. I can't identify with anyone in it, not because the actors aren't giving it their best but because they're given schematic check-list dialogue that's just about impossible to wring any subtext out of.

Pass.

I still have some hope the series will find its legs. If it fails, then...good effort.
 
Another really fun episode. Loved seeing Dean Cain again, and Livewire was by far the best villain yet. She may have had the exact same powers as Electro in the last Spidey movie, but they were still really well-realized here, and she also managed to come off a whole lot more threatening.

And of course the best and most surprising part was seeing the growth and development of Cat. I've always got a kick out of the character before, but with this episode the Cat and Kara scenes have suddenly risen to a whole new level and are now what I look forward to most.

Regarding "Livewire," it was very good. I was disappointed most with Helen Slater's performance. It didn't seem dynamic enough compared to the other actors' performances.

Yeah I hate to say it, but Slater really seemed to be the weak link in the episode, and just never felt nearly as real and authentic as the Alex actress did in their scenes together.

The actors are attractive and pretty good, but the writing is generic, fannish connect-the-dots motivation and dialogue. I can't identify with anyone in it, not because the actors aren't giving it their best but because they're given schematic check-list dialogue that's just about impossible to wring any subtext out of.

Pass.

I would definitely agree that the storylines have been pretty generic so far, but the fun and clever dialogue combined with the incredibly charming and likable characters has more than made up for that in my view.
 
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