Trek Returning to TV in 2017!

[ManOnTheWave]

This thread has gotten entirely too civil.

Them's fightin' words.

 

[Greg Cox]

You tin-plated dictators with delusions of godhood!

 

[Amasov]

I don't understand the panic over the issue of whether the new series will be set in Prime or Nu universe. If it's a series set between TOS and TNG, with a new ship and a new crew, the ONLY way you'll be able to tell if it's Prime or not is by whether Vulcan still exists. And either way, the writers will be creating new characters, new stories, new aliens. And old aliens and ships (and continuity) will be tweaked and updated - just as they have been throughout Star Trek's history.

I don't understand the panic either. Does it really matter where it's set so long as some good stories are told?

 

[garoo1980]

I don't understand the panic over the issue of whether the new series will be set in Prime or Nu universe. If it's a series set between TOS and TNG, with a new ship and a new crew, the ONLY way you'll be able to tell if it's Prime or not is by whether Vulcan still exists. And either way, the writers will be creating new characters, new stories, new aliens. And old aliens and ships (and continuity) will be tweaked and updated - just as they have been throughout Star Trek's history.

I don't understand the panic either. Does it really matter where it's set so long as some good stories are told?

It's going to be a very long 14 months, that's for sure. Wait till they start announcing writers and directors. Oh the conclusions we can jump to

 

[martok2112]

Get off my lawn, and turn down these posts!! I'm trying to watch Matlock.

Ahem....that's Martok!

This thread has gotten entirely too civil.

I'd take a dump on your shoes, but you're in the forums pretty regularly. You always get crap on your shoes, so what's the challenge?

I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty-headed animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!

You fight like a dairy farmer!!

Them's fightin' words.

You tin-plated dictators with delusions of godhood!

You dress in the manner of a male prostitute!

 

[cooleddie74]

You have offended me! Step across the Neutral Zone and say that to our faces!

Wait. Hold on. Let me get my completely inappropriate sucker punch ready.

 

[martok2112]

You have offended me! Step across the Neutral Zone and say that to our faces!

Wait. Hold on. Let me get my completely inappropriate sucker punch ready.

<---points to somethng behind offended party

Hey, what's that over there?

 

[ManOnTheWave]

You dress in the manner of a male prostitute!

Sometimes.

 

[cooleddie74]

You all have Donald Trump's haircut!

 

[ManOnTheWave]

Dude. Don't make me cry.

 

[martok2112]

You all have Donald Trump's haircut!

That, 'thir, ith a low blow!

 

[cooleddie74]

This thread's gonna be HUUUUUUUGE.

 

[Jedman67]

You all have Donald Trump's haircut!

That, 'thir, ith a low blow!

Igor, you fool!!

 

[martok2112]

You all have Donald Trump's haircut!

That, 'thir, ith a low blow!

Igor, you fool!!

Stimpy, you bloated sack of protoplasm!

 

[Amasov]

I rarely listen to these but enjoyed this one:





http://www.trek.fm/the-ready-room/190

I don't get this obsession in that podcast and in others I've heard with a return to the Prime Universe. ("It's got to be Prime," to quote Dr. Trek.)

It's deader than a redshirt, Jim. Trekkies need to live long and prosper with that fact. A new show set in a universe with that much baggage — i.e. canon — is a suicide decision.

Sure to make the CBS All Access to work, CBS needs to attract the fanbase, but they don't have to pander to it. They likely want to draw in the general audience that loved the last two movies. Logically, the produces will look to replicate the success of the last two movies in a episodic series.

For STAR TREK to survive into the future, it needs to build a new fanbase, not continually feed an aging one.

What gets me is that we always hear how STAR TREK is about moving forward, but when someone comes along with a new take (TNG, '09, ItD) everyone panics at the disco and wants a return to the old stuff.

Why make it Star Trek then? The logical extension of your logic is that any set rule or concept is baggage. Therefore anything that makes it star trek is something that can be changed. I just don't understand how canon, or story, can be considered baggage. Having to work within the rules requires greater creativity and often is a good way of producing good writing, since it requires more that a cursory idea.

It can be baggage because it could harp on some creative opportunities. That's why Trek '09 was set in an alternate reality in addition to wanting to bring in some new fans who had never seen Star Trek before.

I don't disagree with you that having to work within the rules requires greater creativity, (TNG writing staff under Roddenberry) but when you have almost 50 years of established canon, I think something has got to give.

I don't care what "reality" the show is set in. The stories have to be good and the characters need to be appealing in order for me to enjoy it. And there's no way I can judge those two elements now considering there is ZERO information on its premise. And even if there was info on its premise, I still would wait to see the show before I form my own opinion.

I have many friends who have already decided Star Wars: The Force Awakens is going to be a terrible film and an embarrassment to the SW franchise. They had this opinion formed the moment the movie was announced three years ago.

This is the part of fandom, and excuse me, that I don't like; the complaints before anything is even known.

 

[xortex]

The next Star Trek should be a proper prequel to TOS. Give GR some respect.

 

[Rahul]

Well, if Trek 09's goal was to get rid of all the 'baggage', they utterly failed! (despite making a fun movie)

At this point, the prime universe and the JJverse have an equally complicated backstory. The fun thing is: The basic set of rules are the same in each universe! ("no beaming through shields!", "Warp engines for interstellar travel, impulse engines for battle maneuvers", "Tricorders", "Phaserss set on stun").

In fact: The JJverse is already more muddled! (Transwarp beaming? Seriously, there will never ever be excitement on any away mission again, if the landing party can beam straight back to EARTH if they are in danger!)

If you watch the pilot episodes of TNG, VOY or ENT you can dive right into, without needing to have ever seen any episode of previous Star Trek before.

To completely understand Star Trek into Darkness you need extensive knowledge of plot points from episodes and movies more than 30 years ago...

 

[Greg Cox]

The next Star Trek should be a proper prequel to TOS. Give GR some respect.

Gotta ask: Was BATMAN BEGINS not paying respect to Bob Kane and Bill Finger when they did a new take on Batman's origin?

Is ELEMENTARY not paying respect to Sir Arthur Conan Doyle by making Watson a woman?

Is SLEEPY HOLLOW not paying respect to Washington Irving?

Was THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN not paying respect to Kurasawa by making THE SEVEN SAMURAI a western?

Heck, was WEST SIDE STORY not playing respect to Shakespeare by reworking "Romeo & Juliet"?

None of this stuff is set in stone. And there's always room for a new take on things.

 

[xortex]

Prequels are not set in stone either. Except if you make Kirk a woman.

 

[Greg Cox]

Prequels are not set in stone either. Except if you make Kirk a woman.

Hey, it worked for Battlestar Galactica.