He could've just been trying to be helpful. In the pilot for The Greatest American Hero Ralph had a hard time trying to fly until a small boy told him to try three steps and a jump. And that became how Ralph learned how to fly.
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He could've just been trying to be helpful. In the pilot for The Greatest American Hero Ralph had a hard time trying to fly until a small boy told him to try three steps and a jump. And that became how Ralph learned how to fly.
Ralph couldn't fly.
Sure, he could fall upwards, but he couldn't fly.
Sure, he could fall upwards, but he couldn't fly.
No, he could fly and the more the series went along the better he got at it, eventually being able to outfly planes.
Truthfully, I half expected Kara o take three steps before taking off the save the plane in the pilot.
You guys are talking about what he would have known. I'm talking about his attitude. You can rationalize it after the fact all you want, but in the moment, it struck me and at least a couple of other posters in this thread as wrong.
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I'm talking about his attitude too, and I find it perfectly plausible. This world has had over a dozen years to get used to Superman and his activities. It's not a novelty to them anymore; it's something they see all the time on the news. A lot of people are probably pretty blase about it by now.
That's like saying that people wouldn't go apeshit when they see a celebrity in person, because they see them on TV and the Internet all the time.
Seeing something with your own eyes can be awe-inspiring even if you've seen a million pictures. That was my experience with the Grand Canyon.
Seeing something with your own eyes can be awe-inspiring even if you've seen a million pictures. That was my experience with the Grand Canyon.
Key words, "can be." Different people react differently.
After all, when you were at the Grand Canyon, you were just looking at it. This guy was no spectator, no tourist; he was the chief of a team trying to put out a massive, raging fire. He was focused on getting the job done. He wasn't going to waste time staring in awe or asking for an autograph.
You may think that helps, but it just makes the guy seem more obnoxious. Kara's reply should have been, "Maybe you'd like to do this yourself?"
Exactly. Some of us reacted differently to that line.
Exactly. Some of us reacted differently to that line.
It's not about what literally can and cannot be. For all we know, the worker could have been an alien, one of those mad at Kara. Or he could be Clark Kent's secret boyfriend. And a regular person could also say that of course. And even if they wouldn't – a woman just broke the laws of physics flying in, so who cares about realism – the question of whether it could happen is just a random technicality in that context.
That doesn't mean I have to like it. Seeing it just makes me think “Nah, you wouldn't do that”, and for some reason that seems more jarring than a person that is flying around. Especially when the worker's one of the very few regular Joes depicted in the first two episodes.* And that makes the scene seem written in a hurry – funny enough, just the bending of the ship probably took days, so certainly it wasn't done that way.
* Seriously. I think that's the only show where the superhero is the only person I seem to be able to relate to so far. That's weird...
That doesn't mean I have to like it. Seeing it just makes me think “Nah, you wouldn't do that”, and for some reason that seems more jarring than a person that is flying around. Especially when the worker's one of the very few regular Joes depicted in the first two episodes.* And that makes the scene seem written in a hurry – funny enough, just the bending of the ship probably took days, so certainly it wasn't done that way.
* Seriously. I think that's the only show where the superhero is the only person I seem to be able to relate to so far. That's weird...
Remember what Cat said about a woman having to work twice as hard to be seen as half as good. This is allegory. Any woman trying to prove herself in any professional or public field is going to face criticism, dismissal, hostility, and worse from many different men -- and even other women, sometimes -- just for trying to do her job. That is absolutely, entirely realistic. It sucks, but it's true to life. Hell, if this show were really realistic, then Supergirl would already be getting swamped with rape threats on Twitter. There are depressingly many men out there who will never be able to see a woman as capable or worthy of respect no matter how many superpowers she has.
This was prevalent back when Superman was created but it's not anymore.
No, no we are not playing this game - it is absolutely still the case, we have multiple studies in multiple industries which demonstrate it is still the case.
The evidence is strong, it really is more the situation that people who think its not need to provide strong robust evidence for their case - and they cannot.
"Not anymore?" Gamergate, "Men's Rights Activists" -- there are cyberterrorists out there today issuing death and rape threats against women merely for criticizing video games and comic books. This is very much a current concern. Sexists have not gone away -- they've just become more militant as more and more women have intruded on what they think should be their exclusive playgrounds.
...and you provide no evidence. At the very least is it much better than when Superman was created.
..and I'm sure it goes both ways although the female threats will never get the same attention.
I understand what they were trying to say with that scene...they just chose a way to say it that jarred me and at least a couple of other posters here out of the episode.
But that's not the reason the male character issued the criticism. There's a certain cadre of fans attempting to inject their own hyper-politicized ideas into every work of fiction--trying to remake the world over to suit whatever agenda they push.
The reality is that this is superhero TV series set in the fictional world where Superman exists. Superman is known all over the world and it is clear he set the standard for any and all super powered heroes. So, Supergirl--logically and particularly since she's "one of the same line"--would naturally face immediate comparison and/or criticism. This cannot be difficult to comprehend.
In real life, there is precedent: in sports (Venus Williams critically compared to her sister Serena), and politics (Robert was criticized when compared to the demeanor and/or actions of John Kennedy). A fair observer sees the same thing in the Supergirl/man scene.
People speak that way--everywhere.
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Incorrect. The data supports Christopher's comments and - this is anecdotal - I follow a few female celebrities and sports stars on Instagram and every picture they post is subject to heinous and sexist comments.
I never disagreed with that.
This thread is sapping all the fun out of the show. 
There are no absolutes, and attacks on gender goes both ways. MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski (co-host of the AM roundtable Morning Joe) is supposed to be a responsible face of a major cable news network, yet her misandry rears its head often--without any reprimand. Recent example: shortly before the CNBC Republican debate, presidential candidates Trump & Carson complained about the original, lengthy format. Fellow presidential candidate Carly Fiorina--trying to seem "clever"--made a crude double entendre about her male opponent's "performance issues" (in reference to not being about to weather the debate length) This was low, sexualized and unbecoming of a candidate, yet instead of criticizing Fiorina for her remark (which innumerable men would find offensive), Brzezinski cackled "I love that!" So, laughing at the crude attack on males was just fine for MSNBC, and Fiorina, since there was no call for her to think twice about such a gutter-born insult.
This was no anonymous post online, but a candidate for president of the United States making immature, crude jokes, and not caring that the source of her joke is a real problem affecting countless real men in the world. What's worse, is that a so-called responsible reporter/host publicly (officially) supported that with glee.
Though not an absolute, it is not an isolated incident, or climate in Western culture.