New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 2017

[sojourner]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

Well, his current show Limitless is one of the success stories of the fall season. A great show.

All I can say is do you get why a large part of the potential audience watch AMC, netflix originals, and HBO series?

Not without providing some proof that that's true.

Besides, how does that diminish the fact that Kurtzman has been shown able to produce a product that the public is willing to tune in to?

 

[Autistoid]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

I'm not seeing it so feel free to expound without talking down about Kurtzman's ability. Personal opinion about the man doesn't color my judgement about his work.

Personal opinion is a relative thing, the guy has a consistant work history.

It's not much of a stretch to see where he's going with this series.

We don't know what direction CBS is going to give or what they will demand. That's an unknown right there.

We have a pretty dam good idea. I'm sure the optimist inside you wants to pretend that now is somehow different, but this seems like very much the same old cbs, that brought voyager to upn.

As for HBO, AMC and Netflix, does it matter? CBS could be announcing its zombie show on All Access and it would be meant with skepticism. The point is not what is being done now, but what the final product ends up being.

You can expect a magical result, but it's not hard to predict the kind of product that they will be looking for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Uj7Fm4D4nc

Remember this I thought not.

But, we've got a year to speculate.

 

[fireproof78]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

Yes, I do remember Terra Nova...why?

This isn't business as usual for CBS, at least to my mind. Kurtzman has a consistent record of working in Hollywood and knowing how to produce results or he would not be working.

Sorry, I just don't see things your way, nor do I really fully understand it. Respectfully, I will agree to disagree and wait and see.

 

[LtChange]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

I really love Star Trek fans. We have absolutely no idea what this show will be about, we haven't got the slightest clue what they are aiming for but we can debate and be the best critics in the world or the worst for that matter, discussing nothing at all. We are capable to bury a show after waiting for one for 10 years without the studio casting the main cast. Come on people. At least keep an open mind. For a show that promotes to keep an open mind in general, the fans are some close minded bunch when it comes to something new. In my opinion Kurtzman's past can be handled as a bad example (Cowboys and Aliens, Transformers etc) but it can be a good example too (Alias, Fringe, M:I III was fan too, Transformers Prime etc). So it can go either way. It can be bad but it can be good too. Maybe he will do his best work as a writer in this new Star Trek series. I will most certainly keep an open mind until I see at least the first 3-4 episodes.

 

[David.Blue]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

I will simply note that among the three folks we do know are associated with the new series, they have had something to do with some very good t.v. shows like Alias, Fringe and Sleepy Hollow.

Should the best episodes of Star Trek: Untitled prove as good as the best episodes of those three series, I would feel satisfied. If the cast of the new series shows anywhere near as much talent, that will make for a big plus.

 

[jefferiestubes8]

per episode budget?

"All the series have done well in terms of streaming, he said. "Added in to that, Star Trek is a huge international franchise. Our international distribution guy is going crazy; he can't wait to get out to the marketplace and sell that. Right away, we're more than halfway home on the cost of the show from international alone.

"more than halfway home on the cost of the show"
source

I wonder what the cost per episode is and how many episodes?
I can't wait to hear what the leak from International buyers is for # of episodes.

 

[SuperSpaceMan]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

Zero information? we have a name, and proven track record that the name is attached to. I'm not sure how on earth you can conclude that is zero information, that seems like quite a big parcel of information. Consindering the history that trek has had with different production staff causing issues with the overall product I'm not sure how a guy who was associated with kevin sorbo hercules isn't a liability?

David Eck (Producer of SciFi's BSG) was associated with Kevin Sorbo's Hercules, as was Sam Raimi. Meanwhile, Kurtzman has been tied to a NUMBER of successful shows, (Yes Hercules was one of them) and is currently EP of three successful shows on CBS right now. Given his history with the Star Trek Franchise, Kurtzman is actually seems to be the best choice.

He's not just a name, he's the main guy associated with the project who will no doubt have a huge influence on everything that follows.

Do you think a name like that gets associated with such project without him having a direct input on the steps that come next?

Yup, he is going to have input, that's what EP's do, have input. Most likely he will not be show runner though, as he has alot going on, and show runner is typically a full time gig. But again, given his experience in Genre shows (Hercules, Fringe, Alias) that's a good thing.

This makes absolutely no sense, again we know exactly what happens when a series is launched as the flag ship product. It has to appeal to all demographics, unless CBS has decided that magically it's online service is gonna be a complete u turn from its cable service which seems highly unlikely and financially nonsensical.

Actually we don't know what happens... CBS is the first studio to launch their own subscription based internet service. Comparing UPN to All Access is like comparing an apple to a Buick. Yes, Voyager was the flagship for UPN, and that didn't necessarily go as well as Paramount would have wanted, BUT Voyager was the highest rated thing on UPN for most of it's run. So UPN didn't fail because of Voyager, UPN failed because of a lack of other programming.

The same may be true here, or it may not. in this case,CBS will offer all 6 trek series, available on demand for 6 bucks a month, not really a bad deal considering.

And while I don't think All Access will necessarily just be Star Trek, it's certainly the right brand to jump start a new streaming service, given the success of Star Trek in the streaming space.

 

[jefferiestubes8]

quality from CBSAA

CBS will offer all 6 trek series, available on demand for 6 bucks a month, not really a bad deal considering.

CBS All Access has

Lower video quality then Netflix/Amazon/Google Play.
- Frequent stops due to low server bandwidth, especially in the evenings.
- Skipping on the timeline causes commercials to play, in addition to the predefined spots where commercials are already shown anyway.
- Very Low audio quality
- Dolby not supported

source

Not great compared to others.

 

[Squiggy]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

Well, a 3 month old comment on a news article written over a year ago.

You're probably right. I doubt CBS will invest anything into this thing they're going to be promoting heavily.

 

[Mr Awe]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

An "F load of noise"?

I'm just saying if people want to change things, that's what you need to do. The squeaky wheel gets the oil. <shrug>

Mr Awe

But these squeeky wheels aren't on the cart. We're just wheels sitting on the side of the road watching the cart go by.

You are, if that's how you see your role.

Mr Awe

 

[sojourner]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

I'm just saying if people want to change things, that's what you need to do. The squeaky wheel gets the oil. <shrug>

Mr Awe

But these squeeky wheels aren't on the cart. We're just wheels sitting on the side of the road watching the cart go by.

You are, if that's how you see your role.

Mr Awe

Unless you're working in the production office, that's where you are too. A bystander with no input in to what direction the show will take.

Your only power is to not watch the show and deny them the revenue. Have fun with that.

 

[Mudd]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

I'm just saying if people want to change things, that's what you need to do. The squeaky wheel gets the oil. <shrug>

Mr Awe

If a wheel keeps squeaking after repeated maintenance it gets yanked off the vehicle, replaced by a new good one and discarded as rubbish.

Trekkie wheels complaining about new stuff they don't like wore past the end of their warranties decades ago.

 

[Belz...]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

We will be joining a crew exploring the final frontier in a televisions series in 2017.

The danger of doing that, and the thing that DS9 largely and wisely avoided, is retreading the same stuff over. TNG post-season 5 had begun to exhaust that potential.

 

[Belz...]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

I'm not seeing it so feel free to expound without talking down about Kurtzman's ability. Personal opinion about the man doesn't color my judgement about his work.

Personal opinion is a relative thing, the guy has a consistant work history.

It's not much of a stretch to see where he's going with this series.

And where is that?

I really love Star Trek fans. We have absolutely no idea what this show will be about, we haven't got the slightest clue what they are aiming for but we can debate and be the best critics in the world or the worst for that matter, discussing nothing at all. We are capable to bury a show after waiting for one for 10 years without the studio casting the main cast.

You should see Star Wars fans. We're all the same.

 

[captainkirk]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

You should see Star Wars fans. We're all the same.

Blasphemy! Actually, do they complain that J.J. is going to make Star Wars too much Like Star Trek? That would be hilarious.

 

[Pondslider]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

Well, a 3 month old comment on a news article written over a year ago.

You're probably right. I doubt CBS will invest anything into this thing they're going to be promoting heavily.

I have no doubt that CBS will invest more in this -- especially if they are able to add NFL Football to it like they want to. It will require a higher quality service to meet the higher demand and will also lead to a higher price for consumers. The $6 people talk about being such a great deal might not even last until 2017. The Hollywood Reporter article said they've been talking about $9.99 subscriptions without ads for what they currently offer which is just reruns and recent episodes of current shows. They've also already said the price will go up when they add football like they want to do and that in addition to Star Trek they want other original online only content for the service. So if everything falls for CBS the way they want we could be looking at $10-15 a month for this service and that could be with ads if they decide they can charge that much because NFL fans will pay it.

 

[Romulan_spy]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

You should see Star Wars fans. We're all the same.

Well, if anybody can find commonality with star wars, it should be star trek fans. After all, we watch a show where a dinosaur alien, a cat-like alien and an android are able to coexist peacefully.

 

[eyeresist]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

You should see Star Wars fans. We're all the same.

Blasphemy! Actually, do they complain that J.J. is going to make Star Wars too much Like Star Trek? That would be hilarious.

Yeah, I would really like to know the answer to this.

 

[rahullak]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

Incredibly excited with this announcement! Been waiting for such a long time (5 years since I finished watching ENT) for a new Trek series. I expect CBS would want this series to run for 3 seasons at worst and 7-10 seasons at best. So we're looking at goodness lasting at least until 2020. Bring it on!

 

[Autistoid]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

I'm not seeing it so feel free to expound without talking down about Kurtzman's ability. Personal opinion about the man doesn't color my judgement about his work.

Personal opinion is a relative thing, the guy has a consistant work history.

It's not much of a stretch to see where he's going with this series.

And where is that?

I really love Star Trek fans. We have absolutely no idea what this show will be about, we haven't got the slightest clue what they are aiming for but we can debate and be the best critics in the world or the worst for that matter, discussing nothing at all. We are capable to bury a show after waiting for one for 10 years without the studio casting the main cast.

You should see Star Wars fans. We're all the same.

Deux Machina up the ying yang.

Spontaneous plot twists that don't give a dam about canon, even that created in it's own show.

Technobabble where the writers insert random crap for their weak ideas.

Shallow characters that due to the above are unable to actually develop.