New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 2017

[jefferiestubes8]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

They really need to shoot it in 4K. 8K might be a bit much but I need content for my new 4K tv!

RAMA this 2013 Futureproofing next Trek TV series thread post seems very relevant now. I see in April 2015 you changed your mind.

My concern is still valid with CBS All Access:
http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=10827043&postcount=52

Trek TV has CGI requirements for all episodes. I can see them shooting in 4K UHD or 6k if they use new cameras.
I think that if the next Trek TV series happens in the next 2-3 years that they will render all CGI in 1080p for broadcast if it airs on a linear HDTV channel to make deadlines and lower cost and before the 4k Blu-ray/season download is released the following year they will complete all CGI renders in 4k UHD resolution of 3840×2160 pixels and deliver a 4K UHD master. Maybe they will just pay to do it at 4K UHD from the start to futureproof the next Trek TV series?[/QUOT]

 

[fireproof78]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

Seems like this is gonna be a dumb down version of voyager.

Anyone else?

Considering we have 0 information so far I'd say this statement is completely pointless.

Precisely. Lots of speculation, but zero details about the show's premise, beyond who is going to be making it and release date.

 

[RAMA]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

RAMA wrote:
They really need to shoot it in 4K. 8K might be a bit much but I need content for my new 4K tv!
RAMA this 2013 Futureproofing next Trek TV series thread post seems very relevant now. I see in April 2015 you changed your mind.

My concern is still valid with CBS All Access:
http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?...3&postcount=52

Trek TV has CGI requirements for all episodes. I can see them shooting in 4K UHD or 6k if they use new cameras.
I think that if the next Trek TV series happens in the next 2-3 years that they will render all CGI in 1080p for broadcast if it airs on a linear HDTV channel to make deadlines and lower cost and before the 4k Blu-ray/season download is released the following year they will complete all CGI renders in 4k UHD resolution of 3840×2160 pixels and deliver a 4K UHD master. Maybe they will just pay to do it at 4K UHD from the start to futureproof the next Trek TV series?

Well we all have to adapt based on new information. At the time I thought 4K and 8K would simply be archival, and that 1080p was good enough for most people so I felt CBS/Paramount wouldn't go the route of expensive conversion(and they probably won't still for old shows). Then I actually SAW 4K and changed my mind about new content.

I currently have a new 3D/4K TV and I enjoy both features. Upconverted blurays are also nice, but I'd love to get my hands on a fresh, new Star Trek series in 4K.

I'd go with a 4k master, just get it done from the start. If the series is only 10-13 episodes they may have the extra time to meet deadlines.

 

[Autistoid]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

Seems like this is gonna be a dumb down version of voyager.

Anyone else?

Considering we have 0 information so far I'd say this statement is completely pointless.

Actually we have a ton.

The producer and his company which is taken the reins have a long established track record.

Excessive duex machina is to be expected.

As well as plot twists like it was all a dream.



Not to mention he is given credibility from the new movies, which on their own would be fine however we know the series has to be taylored to cbs's format. Much the same in how voyager was edited to appeal to the upn audience.

 

[Autistoid]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

Seems like this is gonna be a dumb down version of voyager.

Anyone else?

Considering we have 0 information so far I'd say this statement is completely pointless.

Precisely. Lots of speculation, but zero details about the show's premise, beyond who is going to be making it and release date.

We have the pruduction company and we have the politics that are surrounding the development of the series.

Basically the two biggest fears has arisen.

a) that the format will be too focused on grabbing a non trek audience(almost gaurenteed when using an exclusive content menthod)

b) Staff choses that would likely not see much problem with the biggest offenses of treks decay.

Excessive technobabble, duex machina type twists.

His track record is exstensive on those themes.

Not to mention the shallow depth of most of the products associated with kurtzman and cbs.

 

[thumbtack]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

I am disheartened, depressed and thoroughly annoyed by the entitled whining.

But are you surprised? It's just replacing, "It's not Khan, you idiots!" with "It's in the Prime, you idiots!"

When canon is the only thing that matters, you know these things. How we can we not be entitled? We are the true fans!


.

 

[dansigal]

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Considering we have 0 information so far I'd say this statement is completely pointless.

Precisely. Lots of speculation, but zero details about the show's premise, beyond who is going to be making it and release date.

We have the pruduction company and we have the politics that are surrounding the development of the series.

Basically the two biggest fears has arisen.

a) that the format will be too focused on grabbing a non trek audience(almost gaurenteed when using an exclusive content menthod)

b) Staff choses that would likely not see much problem with the biggest offenses of treks decay.

Excessive technobabble, duex machina type twists.

His track record is exstensive on those themes.

Not to mention the shallow depth of most of the products associated with kurtzman and cbs.

You're unfounded pessimism is so tiring. Starting with your inane statement that it sounds like a dumbed down version of Voyager based on the literal zero information we have on the actual show. Plus, even if it made any kind of sense to make statements about what the show will be like based solely on one name involved and format it will be produced in (which it absolutely does not), your reasoning is trash. The exclusive content method makes it more likely they will be trying to attract a specific Trek audience, not less likely. They are using this show to launch All Access as an exclusive producer of original media. The entire point of using a known quantity to is to capitalize on the fan base. Sure, they want as broad an audience as possible, everyone does, but their planned base is Trek fandom, so it's more likely to be tailored to it.

 

[ancient]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

Alex Kurtzman's extreme case of Hipster glasses is my biggest concern right now. How does he see with those things?

 

[peteym5]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

"Gentleman, we have come home." Captain James T. Kirk Star Trek IV:The Voyage Home
Over 150 posts in less than 24 hours, I can tell everyone, millions of Star Trek fans had been wanting this since the cancellation of Star Trek Enterprise in 2005 after 4 seasons.
We will be joining a crew exploring the final frontier in a televisions series in 2017.

I can say I personally was hoping for something set not long past the end of Star Trek Voyager in the later 24th century/Early 25th century.

 

[Photoman15]

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What I don't want to see:

1. Dominion War (this does not mean I wouldn't mind seeing the characters from DS9)
2. Borg
3. Worf
4. Pre-TOS
5. Pre-TNG (between TOS and TNG)
6. No stunt casting (ex. Bruce/Kaitlin Jenner as Starfleets' first trans officer).

I'd like to see:
1. 70 years past TNG/DS9/VOY like TNG was to TOS. Mentions are okay and an occasional guest star okay. Maybe at the beginning of developing the Relativity when it doesn't work quite right, but not as the main ship.
2. USS ENTERPRISE NCC-1701-(pick a letter or fruit (DW fans will understand)).
3. MAYBE one Q visit. But maybe he gets his butt kicked.

I'll think of more later.

 

[TheSeeker]

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If this has anything to do with the Abramsverse in any way whatsoever, I will not watch it.

If it's a completely new universe, I'd give it a chance... if I could access it.

I don't understand why you wouldn't even give it a chance. I understand that you don't like the new movies, and that's fine, but the new show could still be set in the same universe and have a completely different tone than the movies.

Also, you're in Canada, aren't you? It's only going to be streaming in the US. Chances are one of our channels like Space will carry it.

 

[Mr Awe]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

LOL, scream all you want. They're going to make what they think will work. Not what a few fans cry about.

Who's screaming or crying?

Mr Awe

An "F load of noise"?

I'm just saying if people want to change things, that's what you need to do. The squeaky wheel gets the oil. <shrug>

Mr Awe

 

[sojourner]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

Who's screaming or crying?

Mr Awe

An "F load of noise"?

I'm just saying if people want to change things, that's what you need to do. The squeaky wheel gets the oil. <shrug>

Mr Awe

But these squeeky wheels aren't on the cart. We're just wheels sitting on the side of the road watching the cart go by.

 

[USS Triumphant]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

"New Star Trek series coming-would you like to know more?"

For whatever reason, I read this in the voice of the propaganda announcer for "Starship Troopers".

Wonder if Jonathan Frakes would be on board for directing any episodes. He's still directing TV....isn't he?

I certainly hope not - I don't want *anyone* that I consider responsible for the "valentine to the fans" (meaning, Berman, Braga, Frakes, and Kroeker) ANYWHERE near the new show.

 

[Autistoid]

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You're unfounded pessimism is so tiring. Starting with your inane statement that it sounds like a dumbed down version of Voyager based on the literal zero information we have on the actual show.

Zero information? we have a name, and proven track record that the name is attached to. I'm not sure how on earth you can conclude that is zero information, that seems like quite a big parcel of information. Consindering the history that trek has had with different production staff causing issues with the overall product I'm not sure how a guy who was associated with kevin sorbo hercules isn't a liability?

Plus, even if it made any kind of sense to make statements about what the show will be like based solely on one name involved and format it will be produced in (which it absolutely does not), your reasoning is trash.

He's not just a name, he's the main guy associated with the project who will no doubt have a huge influence on everything that follows.

Do you think a name like that gets associated with such project without him having a direct input on the steps that come next?

The exclusive content method makes it more likely they will be trying to attract a specific Trek audience, not less likely. They are using this show to launch All Access as an exclusive producer of original media. The entire point of using a known quantity to is to capitalize on the fan base. Sure, they want as broad an audience as possible, everyone does, but their planned base is Trek fandom, so it's more likely to be tailored to it.

This makes absolutely no sense, again we know exactly what happens when a series is launched as the flag ship product. It has to appeal to all demographics, unless CBS has decided that magically it's online service is gonna be a complete u turn from its cable service which seems highly unlikely and financially nonsensical.

Your mistaking the word proof with evidence. We have only proof of who has been officially tied to the project.

That piece of proven evidence is the only thing we can truly speculate on at the moment, and it does appear to have a conclusive narrative.

 

[sojourner]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

Well, his current show Limitless is one of the success stories of the fall season. A great show.

 

[fireproof78]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

You're unfounded pessimism is so tiring. Starting with your inane statement that it sounds like a dumbed down version of Voyager based on the literal zero information we have on the actual show.

Zero information? we have a name, and proven track record that the name is attached to. I'm not sure how on earth you can conclude that is zero information, that seems like quite a big parcel of information. Consindering the history that trek has had with different production staff causing issues with the overall product I'm not sure how a guy who was associated with kevin sorbo hercules isn't a liability?

Plus, even if it made any kind of sense to make statements about what the show will be like based solely on one name involved and format it will be produced in (which it absolutely does not), your reasoning is trash.

He's not just a name, he's the main guy associated with the project who will no doubt have a huge influence on everything that follows.

Do you think a name like that gets associated with such project without him having a direct input on the steps that come next?

The exclusive content method makes it more likely they will be trying to attract a specific Trek audience, not less likely. They are using this show to launch All Access as an exclusive producer of original media. The entire point of using a known quantity to is to capitalize on the fan base. Sure, they want as broad an audience as possible, everyone does, but their planned base is Trek fandom, so it's more likely to be tailored to it.

This makes absolutely no sense, again we know exactly what happens when a series is launched as the flag ship product. It has to appeal to all demographics, unless CBS has decided that magically it's online service is gonna be a complete u turn from its cable service which seems highly unlikely and financially nonsensical.

Your mistaking the word proof with evidence. We have only proof of who has been officially tied to the project.

That piece of proven evidence is the only thing we can truly speculate on at the moment, and it does appear to have a conclusive narrative.

But, the problem is, we don't know what the directive from CBS, beyond "exploring."

Kurtzman has exactly what CBS wants which is experienced delivering the product that they want on time and on schedule.

I think I'll watch some of his recent projects (like Hawaii Five-0) to get a feel for his production values. Beyond that, I have enjoyed what he has done with Star Trek, so I have no complaints or fears. Since this is CBS's first trek in to Trek since ENT, I imagine the studio will have a large say in it, for good or for ill.

 

[Autistoid]

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But, the problem is, we don't know what the directive from CBS, beyond "exploring."

Kurtzman has exactly what CBS wants which is experienced delivering the product that they want on time and on schedule.

I think I'll watch some of his recent projects (like Hawaii Five-0) to get a feel for his production values. Beyond that, I have enjoyed what he has done with Star Trek, so I have no complaints or fears. Since this is CBS's first trek in to Trek since ENT, I imagine the studio will have a large say in it, for good or for ill.

So on one hand we have a company that wants a flagship, thats gonna get mom dad, and their 16 year old daughter watching?

On the other a guy who's name has been attached to hercules, xena, etc etc/

Again not seeing the unknown here.

We have a pretty good idea what's in the works here.

 

[Autistoid]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

Well, his current show Limitless is one of the success stories of the fall season. A great show.

All I can say is do you get why a large part of the potential audience watch AMC, netflix originals, and HBO series?

 

[fireproof78]

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But, the problem is, we don't know what the directive from CBS, beyond "exploring."

Kurtzman has exactly what CBS wants which is experienced delivering the product that they want on time and on schedule.

I think I'll watch some of his recent projects (like Hawaii Five-0) to get a feel for his production values. Beyond that, I have enjoyed what he has done with Star Trek, so I have no complaints or fears. Since this is CBS's first trek in to Trek since ENT, I imagine the studio will have a large say in it, for good or for ill.

So on one hand we have a company that wants a flagship, thats gonna get mom dad, and their 16 year old daughter watching?

On the other a guy who's name has been attached to hercules, xena, etc etc/

Again not seeing the unknown here.

We have a pretty good idea what's in the works here.

I'm not seeing it so feel free to expound without talking down about Kurtzman's ability. Personal opinion about the man doesn't color my judgement about his work.

We don't know what direction CBS is going to give or what they will demand. That's an unknown right there.

I'm willing to give CBS and Kurtzman the benefit of the doubt, just like I am willing with Lin and Star Trek Beyond. Kurtzman has a certain set of skills that are applicable here.

As for HBO, AMC and Netflix, does it matter? CBS could be announcing its zombie show on All Access and it would be meant with skepticism. The point is not what is being done now, but what the final product ends up being.

But, we've got a year to speculate.