Trek Returning to TV in 2017!
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It is awesome when people make up their minds before page one of the series bible is written.
Hey, the internet has the God-given right to pass judgment on the show based on a vague press release!
I think that's in the Constitution somewhere . . .
The original post is a statement of skepticism, not of judgement. I know, on the internet they are legally the same thing.
ANYBODY WHO DISAGREES WITH ANY SMALL DETAIL OF WHAT I SAY IS A WARRIOR OF THE OPPOSING ARMY!
Now who will join me in the trenches?
Yeah, they'd have to fundamentally alter it to fit with current trends in science, I think. At this point, that's probably best left to another show. I'm not sure if Trek is really about what kinds of advancements in science there should be unless it relates to telling good stories. I'm not sure there's any other reason we need to know about advancements between Kirk and Janeway.
It may well be that a lot of areas of the physical sciences have "hit the wall" and no real advances are possible anymore. Oh, you can tweak your hardware and get a little more out of it but without fundamental breakthroughs that's all you can do.
A friend of mine and I once figured that the Trek universe was dependent on about six or seven fundamental breakthroughs of which, aside from fusion power, we'd be lucky to get any one of them in the next three hundred years.
(And don't ask me to name them, it was a lot of years ago.)
Just as we've gone about as far as you can with chemical rockets, so too maybe they've gone as far as they can with the tech they've got.
What might represent a "great leap forward" for folks in the Trek universe? Perhaps something like discovering the lost secret behind Iconian gateways or the wherewithal to build a Dyson Sphere (which implies a whole new level of scientific accomplishment even if it was never explicitly stated.)
Base a show around trying to find the "next big thing" and you might have something new.
A friend of mine and I once figured that the Trek universe was dependent on about six or seven fundamental breakthroughs of which, aside from fusion power, we'd be lucky to get any one of them in the next three hundred years.
(And don't ask me to name them, it was a lot of years ago.)
Just as we've gone about as far as you can with chemical rockets, so too maybe they've gone as far as they can with the tech they've got.
What might represent a "great leap forward" for folks in the Trek universe? Perhaps something like discovering the lost secret behind Iconian gateways or the wherewithal to build a Dyson Sphere (which implies a whole new level of scientific accomplishment even if it was never explicitly stated.)
Base a show around trying to find the "next big thing" and you might have something new.
Why on earth is this even relevant? Star Trek was not about technological progression, it was about the human in the future. TNG and Voyager got bogged down in a lot of unnecessary technobabble, which took a lot away from the stories and the characters.
It think a lot of Trek's success is due to the TV format. Trek just isn't made for films; you can't cram good character interaction and plot within the confines of 2 hours and the studio's demand for action and splash. At least TV allows characters to develop, plot lines to unfold and a more relaxed pacing for breath - at least after the premiere episode.
I'm glad you came to enjoy Enterprise because it's a good series, but I'm not setting my own expectations low. I'm being realistic. I want the new series to be good. I hope it is. But I'm under no illusions that it's guaranteed to be.
I'm keeping and open mind and am just excited and glad that Star Trek is returning to the small screen for the first time in more than a decade. Prime timeline or Abramsverse, I'll give it a chance because I'm a Trek fanatic and grew up loving it. To slam and give a thumbs down to a series that won't even go into production until sometime next year is the height of silliness and then some.
There's a guarantee that a good chunk of us won't like it. Fans of the new films probably don't like DS9 and vice versa, but they're both valid "Star Trek". Much the same conversation when TNG came out and DIDN'T have Kirk in it. I still know people who only like the original. I'm surprised there's so much hate here when the Star Trek we have is already so diverse
There were more than a few things about Voyager I didn't enjoy and it was the only modern Trek series where I missed occasional episodes and just shrugged, figuring I'd catch them during summer reruns, but I never disliked the series or thought it was "bad" or "terrible," just disappointing compared to the three series that preceded it and I don't like it as much as I do Enterprise.
One can be disappointed in one chapter of the franchise and yet still embrace it for what it is.
One can be disappointed in one chapter of the franchise and yet still embrace it for what it is.
There are lots of people out there that simply don't understand that.
I've noticed.
I found ways to love Star Trek V. I mean, if THAT'S possible....
I found ways to love Star Trek V. I mean, if THAT'S possible....
I pretty much only care about whether I will like it.
And come on, this is Star Trek. Most of us will watch it whether we like it or not.
Besides, my reviews will be so much better if the show is terrible.
There is no way I'm going to miss this unless I'm dead. I mean, it would have to be really, really boring for me to stop watching it once I start. Star Trek is just one of those kinds of properties for me. I'm deeply invested in it.
I think that maybe explains how some people can hate-watch shows.
To each their own. Whether it's "canon" or not is the least of my concerns. "Canon" has nothing to do with the actual quality of the writing, acting, direction, etc.
If it's a good show, I'll watch it regardless if it's "canon" or not.
This is my attitude. I'll give any Trek series or film a go and see if I like it. It would have to be dreadful - and I mean Nemesis-edited-and-directed-by-Dane Cook dreadful - for me to just completely give up on it. Trek is a part of my soul after all these decades and even subpar or truly awful TV episodes and movies haven't made me give up on the franchise.
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